Topic: Anyone thinks that LOS has a better origin story than LOI?(plz use spoiler tags)

[A-Yty]

Here's what LoS got right: it treated Dracula as the protagonist. This is how I've seen it for years. Dracula is the closest thing to a main character the series has. Even if he's also the antagonist.

However, they ignore the other side of the coin (that is if Gabriel truly is going to be the first, last and only Belmont).

[Evil_Tim]

No, Gabriel is the first Belmont in this continuity. He chose the name for himself due to his love of the mountains. And they really just namedropped him being a Cronqvist as a mythos nod to Mathias Cronqvist being the IGAverse's Dracula

Of course they could have gone Belnades / Fernandez on us and said he was a Corvinus, which is probably what Lament was aiming for anyway.

Here's what LoS got right: it treated Dracula as the protagonist. This is how I've seen it for years. Dracula is the closest thing to a main character the series has. Even if he's also the antagonist.

Um, which LoS did you play? I played the one he was barely in at all and when he was it wasn't explained why. LoS is as much about Dracula as it is about Satan.

Also, the closest thing to a main character the series has is the castle. It's named after that, after all.

[A-Yty]

I didn't play LoS. From the spoilers and cutscenes I remember he calls himself Dracula at least on occasion.

And hey, if you wanna go down that road, I suppose Vampire Killer is the main character.

[Evil_Tim]

I didn't play LoS. From the spoilers and cutscenes I remember he calls himself Dracula at least on occasion.

Ok, what happens is this:

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Gabriel goes through the entire game as Gabriel. He fights Satan. He beats Satan. It's revealed he cannot die. Well, ok, whatever. Then, suddenly it's modern times and he's Dracula and we have no actual idea what connects these two events, since we've seen no reason for Gabriel to become Dracula; he hasn't even become a vampire.

And hey, if you wanna go down that road, I suppose Vampire Killer is the main character.

Well, no, there's more than a few games that isn't really in after all (those focusing on anyone who isn't a Belmont), but Castlevania (or "demon castle Dracula," if you prefer) is always important in Castlevania.

[A-Yty]

Really? How about LoI? CotM? DoS? SQ? Castle as a building has always been there but not "Creature of Chaos". The point was the castle is, although supernatural, just a building. It has no personality. Calling "The Whip" main character is therefore just as logical. Dracula is someone who talks and walks and has been around since the beginning.

I think it's after the credits Gabriel refers to himself as Dracul.

[VGuyver]

To be honest, I like both plots, but LOI didn't have that great a plot, it was pretty bland in generic, until you see the plot twist involving Leon's wife. On the other hand, Rinaldo and Joachim both had great potential (along with Walter with their mutual connection to make the plot much more intresting and flashed out. But They didn't they just hinted of what happened between them, never really giving us a satisfying answer. Then it topped off with Mathias who utterly made the plot completely worhtwhile with his speech condemning God.

LOS is an overall better presentation, and the plot is damn good  and enjoyable through out the game. It only fails towards the end... ironic consider this seems to be the reverse of LOI in how they paced it. But it did change up some nice plot elements with death, gods, and angels in a way that struck us with aww, especially with the God Pan who is easily my favorite character in that game.

In the end, the games are a draw to me, but if you were to combine the best aspects of both games plots, you could easily have an award winning plot.

[darkwzrd4]

To be honest, I like both plots, but LOI didn't have that great a plot, it was pretty bland in generic, until you see the plot twist involving Leon's wife. On the other hand, Rinaldo and Joachim both had great potential (along with Walter with their mutual connection to make the plot much more intresting and flashed out. But They didn't they just hinted of what happened between them, never really giving us a satisfying answer. Then it topped off with Mathias who utterly made the plot completely worhtwhile with his speech condemning God.

LOS is an overall better presentation, and the plot is damn good  and enjoyable through out the game. It only fails towards the end... ironic consider this seems to be the reverse of LOI in how they paced it. But it did change up some nice plot elements with death, gods, and angels in a way that struck us with aww, especially with the God Pan who is easily my favorite character in that game.

In the end, the games are a draw to me, but if you were to combine the best aspects of both games plots, you could easily have an award winning plot.

I agree.

[kadosho]

Although I have not played LOS yet (but I'm hopeful to find a copy, when I get my 360 fixed).
I'm still intriuged with the "new" direction they wanted to take it. Move it in a DMC, mixed with Ninja Gaiden.
For so long its been stuck in a 3d-esque plain design. Its great to see it given new life, and maybe more stories to tell.

[Joachim]

Hardly Devil May Cry, moreso God of War.

[Flame]

The Candles are the main characters. They are in every Castlevania game. EVERY. Even loS has breakable candles.

Hardly Devil May Cry, moreso God of War.

Castlevania did it first though. it INVENTED it almost.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

The Candles are the main characters. They are in every Castlevania game. EVERY. Even loS has breakable candles.
Castlevania did it first though. it INVENTED it almost.

Actually Devil May Cry invented it in the 3D genre to be more precise.

Afterwards games like Ninja Gaiden and God of War copied it.

[Lumas]

I have to say after playing LoS and LoI I can honestly say neither is better. I dont really care much for the whole Dracula is Mathias thing nor do I care for Dracula being Gabriel and to be honest LoS was a good game but I honestly can say it was a major disappointment for me story wise.

[Kale]

Actually Devil May Cry invented it in the 3D genre to be more precise.

Afterwards games like Ninja Gaiden and God of War copied it.

Sorry, but if you're going to make a statement like that, then you should say Rygar made that move, then Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, and GoW copied it. That's what everyone seems to tell me anyway.

That said, they play differently. And GoW should've copied more from DMC and NGB.

[crisis]

Kratos would rip Ryu's head off & play catch with Dante hyahaha!!

[Kale]

Please! That pansy? He'll just miss all his QTEs and die.