Topic: Why did they take out Sonia from the series

[KaZudra]

Legends was released in 1998. So before the above mentioned timeline, the one I heard had to have been established sometime after the game came out and just before July 31, 2000. I find the original timeline seems to make the series easier to have legends fit in even if the story is contradictory. But I also believe that when CoD came out then that was it. 1476 became CVIII's date of events made things even more complicated then need-be.

In terms of the Serpent or Dragon being a thing of evil, that's just church propaganda thrust into the arms of an illiterate society as the serpent is an ancient symbol meaning fertility and creation which like the swastika, can be found all over the world. The devil on the other hand is the church's brainchild. A fear educing tactic. You could even argue that it's the earliest form of terrorism known to man. If there is a reference somewhere about the meaning of Dracula I'd be interested to know too. Everything I've seen so-far points to the double-meaning but more often the naught I find it means Dragon. So if there's a site out there that's legitimate on this I wish to see it. On another note Jorge hasn't closed the thread down so I wonder if he finds this argument somewhat engaging..?

Well, cool part is that its not an arguement, just a compilation of a few people trying to get to the bottom of the whole Dracul thing using whatever rescorces we have, and of course a bit of speculation. it actually helps us understand more on Dracula and Roman language and culture.

[Sonic_Reaper]

It's something I've just always been curious about myself.  It relates to the series, though I guess not this thread, entirely.

[whitedragon_nall]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_the_Impaler
Vlad III = Vlad the Impaler = Vlad Dracula.
Please slap yourself in the face for saying I'm misinformed as we Both make the same point.

I don't think you understand my point. Like I explained, Vlad III the Impaler is the historical Dracula, but not the vampire Dracula from the Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. Not once in the novel was the connection ever made. While it is believed the Vlad III may have inspired the vampire Dracula, I don't recall anything ever stating that, aside from the BSD film and the BSD sequel novel.

To clarify, when you originally stated the Vlad III has always been Dracula, did you mean the historical figure or the vampire? I mean, we are talking about Castlevania, so I thought I was making a safe assumption that you were referring to the vampire.

[Kale]

You guys are funny.

[crisis]

Actually my daddy's daddy came up with the Draculas legend, and he wouldn't lie, so technically all yous are misinformed.

[whitedragon_nall]

To get this thread back on track, I think I remember Jorge having an interesting theory on Sonia...anybody remember what it was exactly? I know I liked it and thought it was neat, but I don't recall what it was. Something about her child going on to form the Morris family, if I recall correctly. I would like for a future team to reinstate her back in the story. Not a fan of Legends, but it was cool playing a female Belmont for once.

[KaZudra]

I don't think you understand my point. Like I explained, Vlad III the Impaler is the historical Dracula, but not the vampire Dracula from the Bram Stoker's Dracula novel. Not once in the novel was the connection ever made. While it is believed the Vlad III may have inspired the vampire Dracula, I don't recall anything ever stating that, aside from the BSD film and the BSD sequel novel.

To clarify, when you originally stated the Vlad III has always been Dracula, did you mean the historical figure or the vampire? I mean, we are talking about Castlevania, so I thought I was making a safe assumption that you were referring to the vampire.

We are talking about a game in which the central location is Wallachia, the same place where Vlad III originated and Ruled.
Bram Stoker's Dracula takes place in the mountains on the border of Transylvania.
the book was published in 1897, Before Transylvania Joined Wallachia in the New Kingdom of Romania in 1918.
Geographically there is a link since Wallachia is Pretty Close to Transylvania
Bram Stoker Also knew close to little about Vlad III but His Dracula does refer to Vlad III in a Speech about his background,
Who was it but one of my own race who as Voivode crossed the Danube and beat the Turk on his own ground? This was a Dracula indeed! Woe was it that his own unworthy brother, when he had fallen, sold his people to the Turk and brought the shame of slavery on them! Was it not this Dracula, indeed, who inspired that other of his race who in a later age again and again brought his forces over the great river into Turkey-land; who, when he was beaten back, came again, and again, though he had to come alone from the bloody field where his troops were being slaughtered, since he knew that he alone could ultimately triumph! (Chapter 3, pp 19)
His Later Identity Was Confirmed by Van Helsing
He must, indeed, have been that Voivode Dracula who won his name against the Turk, over the great river on the very frontier of Turkey-land. (Chapter 18, pp 145)
So indeed, Bram Stoker's Dracula has a very high chance to be Vlad III since many of Dracula's Speeches he tends to speak of himself in a third person.
Since Vlad III already had Vampire Legends long before Bram Stoker's novel, I am very Certain that Bram himself knew of it, Its pretty much common sense now that Bram's Dracula and Vlad the Impaler are one the same.

that .01% chance of Bram's Dracula not being Vlad III was later resolved in an official sequel, but that's like assuring someone that gravity exists at this point.
 

[whitedragon_nall]

Ahhh, I did not recall that from the novel. That settles it then. Thanks for the clarification.

[KaZudra]

Ahhh, I did not recall that from the novel. That settles it then. Thanks for the clarification.

Actually, thanks, I actually had to do some research on Roman Saxon history, along with research on the Language, and Bram Stoker's Book With historical links.
I learned quite a few valuable things in this topic.

[X]

I came across this website at the end of the novel I finished:

http://www.blooferland.com./

It should help clear things up a bit.

[Flame]

You guys are funny.

You aren't.

[Kale]

You aren't.

Aw, really? And I was trying so hard!

[Neobelmont]

Why would a hot blonde with a whip would be taken out is beyond me http://r-daikon.deviantart.com/art/Sonia-Belmont-161246614 ut it makes me a sad panda 

[X]

God...Dyamn!  That's a cool pic of Sonia. I really wish she'd pop out of that picture and give IGA a run for his money using the vampirekiller.

[Neobelmont]

God...Dyamn!  That's a cool pic of Sonia. I really wish she'd pop out of that picture and give IGA a run for his money using the vampirekiller.

That is just the tip of the iceberg  X http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3k8ujholQ1qzsrqyo1_500.jpg