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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #150 on: June 20, 2011, 01:49:53 PM »
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Except it isnt the same, because you just admitted that Aeon in OoE was a mistranslation. Means he was never intended as a namedrop.

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And it wasn't like Crisis was joking or anything.
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Maybe they mistyped Cornell's name into the script of LoS. Maybe they meant to but... Ferman. Or something. And the voice actors didn't think it necessary to let MercurySteam know. And the voice director didn't wanna be assed to re-record all those lines with "Cornell" in it.

Then he's grasping at straws.
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #151 on: June 20, 2011, 01:55:46 PM »
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Who cares if it wasn't intented as a name drop? It's still basically the same as the two Cornells who share the same name but share nothing in common aside from that they turn into wolves.               

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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #152 on: June 20, 2011, 01:57:51 PM »
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Except it isnt, because one is a mistranslation. The original version of the game has no such issue.
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #153 on: June 20, 2011, 01:59:15 PM »
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Yes, but that's like not even what I'm trying to argue here.   

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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #154 on: June 20, 2011, 01:59:53 PM »
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1) Aeon from OoE and Aeon from Judgment share absolutely nothing in common other than obvious things. They wear white. They're both human. Big whoop.

2) The Cornell's both are man-wolves and both share the same name. Look closely at both of them also. They're both wearing the same waist-belt-thingy. Also, they both have annoying voices.

3) I'm positive Crisis was joking, for the record. Notice how ridiculous my posts were.

4) The whole Aeon thing may not have been the original intention. But remember, OoE and Judgment came out around the same time. Maybe the US decided to change it to some reference (though why they'd pick him of all people irks me).

5) The point is, Aeon was not intended to be a reference. Cornell was. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #155 on: June 20, 2011, 02:08:02 PM »
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Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #156 on: June 20, 2011, 02:09:27 PM »
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- Cornell in LoS was a reference/tribute to Cornell in LoD
- Aeon (Ian) in OoE is a mistranslation of Aeon (Judgment)
/discussion

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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #157 on: June 20, 2011, 02:11:30 PM »
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Arent we already?

Ignore the whole point I made and go for the Family Guy reference I made, why don'cha? :P

But here's the whole thing about the Cornells. It doesn't matter that there's hardly anything in common about them. Regardless of that, it's still a reference. It's not the Cornell from KCEK's games. They made a man-wolf character and then made a reference to IGA's timeline by calling him Cornell. There doesn't need to be anymore than that for a reference.

- Cornell in LoS was a reference/tribute to Cornell in LoD
- Aeon (Ian) in OoE is a mistranslation of Aeon (Judgment)
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #158 on: June 20, 2011, 02:17:09 PM »
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The thing with Aeon from Judgment and the one from Ecclesia, is that in the sense of two characters that share the same name but are totally different aside from like one thing, that situation is comparable with Legacy Cornell and Lords Cornell. And yes, in the Japanese version that isn't the case but I'm talking about the localized version here.

Also, I'm not saying naming another wolfman character Cornell doesn't count as a reference, just that it is a very stupid and half-assed one.     

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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #159 on: June 20, 2011, 02:28:19 PM »
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Also, I'm not saying naming another wolfman character Cornell doesn't count as a reference, just that it is a very stupid and half-assed one.     

Half-assed? Regardless of how big or little the reference is, it's still a reference. A half-assed reference would be the whole Aeon thing, as they have nothing in common with each other.
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #160 on: June 20, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »
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They are both homo sapiens.  :)


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« Reply #161 on: June 20, 2011, 02:32:15 PM »
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Now that is a half-assed reference.  ;D
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #162 on: June 20, 2011, 02:35:08 PM »
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Yes, but really it's just the same to me with Cornell. Or the Forgotten One. etc.     

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« Reply #163 on: June 20, 2011, 02:39:00 PM »
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Dear god, TFO... That made me rather disappointed. He wasn't nearly as creepy as he was in his original game. And making him talk was worse...
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Re: Konami's Approval Rating
« Reply #164 on: June 20, 2011, 03:00:06 PM »
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I'm talking about the localized version here.
Except localizations do not count. It is just a mistranslation.
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