Topic: Konami's Approval Rating

[Nagumo]

Nevermind already if you're not even listening to what I'm saying.

[crisis]

COX: Okay guys, forget everything you knew about Castlevania. This is a brand new rebooted story with brand new characters, we're wiping the slate clean. But lets reference some old games anyway & call these characters Cornell & Brauner. ok so.. only forget the music, setting, & atmosphere, but NOT certain characters~

[Claimh Solais]

COX: Okay guys, forget everything you knew about Castlevania. This is a brand new rebooted story with brand new characters, we're wiping the slate clean. But lets reference some old games anyway & call these characters Cornell & Brauner. ok so.. only forget the music, setting, & atmosphere, but NOT certain characters~

I think what they meant by forget what you know about CV is this: Forget about the storyline and gameplay. Because they were reinventing the story and gameplay. You know, something that a reboot does?

Only forget the music:
Belmont's Theme references Bloody Tears. The music box in the game plays Vampire Killer. There is a rearrangement of The Waterfalls from SCV4. At least three songs on the OST reference Beginning. They sure forgot about the music.

Forget the setting:
It takes place in a land that's... you know, in a chaotic state? There's also a large dark castle in ancient times that has a whip-wielding hero named BELMONT going through it. They sure forgot about the setting.

Forget the atmosphere:
It's a dark, gothic atmosphere. They're using gothic architecture with a little bit of extra thrown in. They sure forgot about the atmosphere.

People are bashing LoS far more than they actually should.

[crisis]

The music is still bland & boring, pretty much any hardcore fan here agrees with only a few exceptions. Yeah there's like 3 songs but uhh.. who cares.

I couldn't tell if the game takes place in Wallachia, Transylvania, Mordor, Maya or wherever. Maybe a mirror-dimension of the LotR universe.

The gothic atmosphere didn't show itself until chapter 5 or 6, and even that didn't last as we approached the Necromancer land.

The thing about using other character's names, it's obvious LoS was meant to "reimagine" LoI with all the references it has, so why are they using names like Olrox & Brauner? The reasoning behind it is more like "by the way, lets throw the old fans a bone or 2 by naming these characters such" and nothing more. The characters coulda been named literally anything else & none would have been the wiser.


and.. we bash LoS just as much as we praise it. Atleast I do 

[Claimh Solais]

The music is still bland & boring, pretty much any hardcore fan here agrees with only a few exceptions. Yeah there's like 3 songs but uhh.. who cares.

I couldn't tell if the game takes place in Wallachia, Transylvania, Mordor, Maya or wherever. Maybe a mirror-dimension of the LotR universe.

The gothic atmosphere didn't show itself until chapter 5 or 6, and even that didn't last as we approached the Necromancer land.

The thing about using other character's names, it's obvious LoS was meant to "reimagine" LoI with all the references it has, so why are they using names like Olrox & Brauner? The reasoning behind it is more like "by the way, lets throw the old fans a bone or 2 by naming these characters such" and nothing more. The characters coulda been named literally anything else & none would have been the wiser.


and.. we bash LoS just as much as we praise it. Atleast I do 

In all honesty, I think LoS is a pretty good game. Like, it's not as good as it could have been, like a lot of games as of late, but it's a pretty darn good game.

(NOTE: I see waaaaay more hate than praise on this board. )

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

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(NOTE: I see waaaaay more hate than praise on this board. )

My response is deal with it.

Alot of us hardcore fans simply did not like LOS as a Castlevania game simple as that.

I have seen LOS fanboys constantly bicker and object to anything negative said about LOS while also trying to change our tune with some failed since of reasoning but the bottom line is that some of us dislike it as a CV game and some of us don't, hence the reason why I say "deal with it".

[Claimh Solais]

And I understand people's hate for it. Me? I prefer IGAvania over MSvania any day. Or rather, just the original Konami series rather than the new MercurySteam one. So I don't mind that there's hate for it. I will point out every now and then that I feel that there's too much hate, or the rare case where I say it needs more hate. So yeah, I can deal with it.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

And I understand people's hate for it. Me? I prefer IGAvania over MSvania any day. Or rather, just the original Konami series rather than the new MercurySteam one. So I don't mind that there's hate for it. I will point out every now and then that I feel that there's too much hate, or the rare case where I say it needs more hate. So yeah, I can deal with it.

I actually do not "Hate" LOS as a game.

Infact, I think LOS is a pretty good game with great gameplay and awesome graphics.

Its just that I dislike LOS as a Castlevania game since it doesn't appeal to me as a longtime CV fan.

[VampirehunterB]

I actually do not "Hate" LOS as a game.

Infact, I think LOS is a pretty good game with great gameplay and awesome graphics.

Its just that I dislike LOS as a Castlevania game since it doesn't appeal to me as a longtime CV fan.

totally agree!

[Flame]

Belmont's Theme references Bloody Tears

actually...

@CastlevaniaLOS Hi Mr. Cox! What do you think is the definite track from LOS? You know the track that best exemplifies the game as a whole!

@UnManuel - Belmont's theme. It's actually based on Simon's theme.....

[Claimh Solais]

actually...

@CastlevaniaLOS Hi Mr. Cox! What do you think is the definite track from LOS? You know the track that best exemplifies the game as a whole!

@UnManuel - Belmont's theme. It's actually based on Simon's theme.....

Well, Belmont's Theme, if you listen you can hear the references of Bloody Tears, but nothing of Simon's Theme. My thoughts on that were that BT was labeled as Simon's theme song back during CV2. It was also used as his theme in Dream Mix TV Fighters, so... yeah.

[Flame]

I can actually hear the Simon's theme in there.

[Claimh Solais]

Can you point it out? Cuz I didn't hear it. I might've missed it. Like at what second in the song?

[Svart]

konami and nintendo have the sad truth that i love some of their games and franchises (Metroid, Castevania, Pokemon, Silent Hill, ZOE, etc..) but i found them the worst exmples of japanese VG enterprises of DOOM!

on the other hand , i don't care too much for any franchise of capcom, but i feel that is the most interesting japanese big company in it's enterprise ways... it's not ideal, but no as bad either...

[Renonsgoods]

Konami's biggest problem right now is its inept internal business culture, which seems either too afraid of change or too willing to spurn nostalgia in favor of distancing itself from perceived past mistakes.  One thing's for sure though...they certainly don't have very pragmatic leadership in charge of their product line.  They're holding onto the coat tails of the Metal Gear franchise for all its worth, other worthy licenses be damned.  The only thing we can hope for now is that Mercurysteam comes out in LoS2 with its Castlevania heritage firing on all eight cylinders...giving us long time fans the game we deserve while still drawing in hordes of new fans from the mainstream gaming scene.  Maybe then, Konami will come to fully understand the financial gold mine that Castlevania is.....and at last we'll see them give it its due.

In the meantime, I'm not getting my hopes up.  At this point I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than deeply disappointed.