Topic: Konami's Approval Rating

[DragonSlayr81]

But it was. It was great financially, sold lots, and got high ratings. Why Konami didn't follow up on this is beyond me.

Because, they are MORONS, which is obvious, considering this thread is proof of that.

[Claimh Solais]

Morons are something I choose not to understand, hence they are beyond me.

[Flame]

FYI Greatest hits is not quite what you think it is- Many games that sold well DO reach that label, but most times they also just use it as a way to get rid of games that DIDNT sell well. Leftover games that have stuck around too long.

on the LoS and whatnot thing.

VK, I REALLY think you could have said the EXACT same thing without sounding like a douche. because TBH, you kind of come off as a jerk there.

Although I must agree with him to an extent. And it goes back to what I have previously said. the Fanbase says the want something new, but when we DO get something new, they complain that it "isnt castlevania".

Which shows that apprently there is a LIMIT to how much new they want, and Konami probably sees it as just plain nitpicking.

for a first trym I think MS did alright in their take of a CV game. And I find Gabriel's transformation to Darkness much more appealing than Mathias, for reasons which have previously been discussed.

I think that Agharta could have been shortened a smidge, certainly, but everything from Crows pass to the end, felt very vania to me, including the land of the necromancers. Fighting Satan was no biggie, Just asserts how badass Belmonts are. THEY 'AINT CONTENT TO FIGHT JUST DRACULA ANYMORE, THEY GOTTA TAKE DOWN SATAN NOW TOO! plus DoS already brought us to hell, so no issue with me.

on IGA. He brought us things like DoS, Judgement, and CoD. And PoR, which as a successor to Bloodlines, utterly fails because of IGA's OBSESSION with limiting the game to inside the castle. Sorry IGA, but trying to replace actual world exploration with paintings just isnt gonna cut it...

In my honest opinion IGA's magnum opus Vania was Aria of Sorrow. it was a satisfying, fun and fresh conclusion to Castlevania and Dracula.

And then he made Dawn, completely ruining that effect.

Now im not discrediting him, bue he is just so WEIRD in his vania development process that it does more harm than good. (mainly the "I come up with gameplay first everything else second" )

[Claimh Solais]

FYI Greatest hits is not quite what you think it is- Many games that sold well DO reach that label, but most times they also just use it as a way to get rid of games that DIDNT sell well. Leftover games that have stuck around too long.

Greatest Hits is a title that is given to a game that has sold over a certain amount of copies. I believe for PSP it was 100,000 copies, but I'm not sure.

The crap games that no one wants (leftover games that have stuck around too long) are just simply given price drops and reprinted covers giving some sort of word of praise on the back cover. Greatest Hits titles are actually deserving of the title (not like Microsoft's Platinum Hits, which goes to just about any crap game, and the deserving games don't get it).

[JR]

Yeah that's true, it's definitely sales that determines whether something becomes repackaged as a GH title or not. A PSP GH has to have sold 250,000 or more after being on the market for at least 9 months.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Which further shows that Konami really should have followed up on that type of game with making it for the consoles.

Ratings and Sales wise it did good which only raises questions as to why Konami has not even bothered to make another 2.5d game.

[Claimh Solais]

Well, IGA was ousted from his chair (apparently, we don't know for sure whether or not he's gone) before he could. He, specifically, said that he wanted to make more games like that. He did technically with Rebirth.

Hell, I'd even want another game like HD. You know, 6 person multiplayer. Not recycled sprites. I feel now that IGA released that game (which was a test anyway), we can see what he can possibly do with a new one.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

I don't know.

If Konami really wants to just ban IGA from making 3d CV games then that fine. But atleast let him keep making 2.D game and more specifically another 2.5D game.

I'm talking fully HD 3D graphics with the 2.D gameplay. I just would love to see such a game come to pass,

[Renonsgoods]

Agreed.  I don't have a problem with Iga remaining on board for the 2D titles, as long as he bothers to finally step into the 21st century in the process.  I'm in BIG favor of him not attempting anymore full 3D titles though.

[cecil-kain]

If IGA were to come back, I'd like to see him finish his timeline with Demon Castle War and that's it.  Beyond that, I agree Castlevania needs fresh perspective and a rebooting.  How hard is it for Konami to hire someone passionate that understands the mythology?  It takes brazen arrogance or stupidity to screw up the Belmont Vs Dracula rivalry like Mercury Steam set out to do...  Dracula's not even a highborn "Count" anymore, and that goes beyond insulting Castlevania...

[Renonsgoods]

I guess I'm more open to change than most of you here.  After having the Dark Keep move itself to Japan in AoS and Dracula become some random dude from the 11th century in LoI, I apparently became quite numb to ridiculous turns in the canon.  I'm reserving my outright disapproval of MS having the reigns of a 3D Vania until I see how they adjust course for LoS2.  LoS was a great, solid game.  IMO it just failed in delivering enough traditional CV elements and atmosphere...but I'm still on the fence as to whether that was MS' agenda or Konami trying to make them take a radical course change to distance it from previous 3D Vanias.  If LoS2 features a Belmont making his way to the top of Castlevania to square off against Dracula (regardless of who Drac used to be), then I'll be happy.

[DragonSlayr81]

I guess I'm more open to change than most of you here.  After having the Dark Keep move itself to Japan in AoS and Dracula become some random dude from the 11th century in LoI, I apparently became quite numb to ridiculous turns in the canon.

Change actually works both ways, though. You think focusing on Japan was ridiculous, but it WAS "change". It was a change you didn't like, hence you weren't "open" to it. The change brought forth by LoS WAS more of a type of change you liked, so you WERE open to it. Either way, there were two forms of change, yet clearly you weren't "more open to change", like everybody in the world, you are only open when it resonates to your liking. Being "more open to change" has always been something of a sham-saying to me, because nobody's THAT indifferent that they welcome every and all change with open arms. But yeah, you might've liked LoS, and have the right to, but others might have felt it was just as ridiculous as how you felt about the Japan storylines. Doesn't mean they aren't open to change, more than they just didn't like THAT change.

[cecil-kain]

I guess I'm more open to change than most of you here.  After having the Dark Keep move itself to Japan in AoS and Dracula become some random dude from the 11th century in LoI, I apparently became quite numb to ridiculous turns in the canon.  I'm reserving my outright disapproval of MS having the reigns of a 3D Vania until I see how they adjust course for LoS2.  LoS was a great, solid game.  IMO it just failed in delivering enough traditional CV elements and atmosphere...but I'm still on the fence as to whether that was MS' agenda or Konami trying to make them take a radical course change to distance it from previous 3D Vanias.  If LoS2 features a Belmont making his way to the top of Castlevania to square off against Dracula (regardless of who Drac used to be), then I'll be happy.

IMO this is wishful thinking.  Mercury Steam has written themselves into a corner in a lot of ways.  The more likely scenario is that we'll see Mr. Eu Sunt Dracul as the playable anti-hero and Satan is the new villain.  If the sequel shoehorns a new Belmont and Vampire Killer into the game, it undermines the story they've told up till now.  Making Belmont into Dracula and destroying the Vampire Killer were both well thought out and deliberate --why would they go backwards?

[Renonsgoods]

No, I meant it the way I originally worded it.  I actually didn't like Gabe turning into Drac, or the final boss being Satan...but all of that simply didn't phase me on the level that it did with many of you.  Like I said, I've apparently become more numb.  I expected a more traditional CV as much as the rest of you, and I experienced some of the same disappointments as the rest of you.  It's just that the game's better qualities managed to appeal to me in a way that made me not mind the more disappointing elements so much.  Sort of the way LoD had plenty of qualities that made me overlook the horrible graphics, sluggish controls, and problematic camera.

[cecil-kain]

No, I meant it the way I originally worded it.  I actually didn't like Gabe turning into Drac, or the final boss being Satan...but all of that simply didn't phase me on the level that it did with many of you.  Like I said, I've apparently become more numb.  I expected a more traditional CV as much as the rest of you, and I experienced some of the same disappointments as the rest of you.  It's just that the game's better qualities managed to appeal to me in a way that made me not mind the more disappointing elements so much.  Sort of the way LoD had plenty of qualities that made me overlook the horrible graphics, sluggish controls, and problematic camera.

BTW Renon was the best part of 64 games --love your avatar.