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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2011, 08:22:11 PM »
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I think I will only take the Metroidsexual...uh metrosexual look over the X68000 look. But for the most part I think that look should have been saved for Isaac.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 10:20:16 PM »
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Considering Simon's previous designs at the time, it was in my opinion the best middle ground they could have come up with. It is still somewhat barbarian like, but with a sort of elegant Kojima twist. I still like it to this day.

This. It's also his most distinctive design, as most of his others can be easily confused with pretty much any Belmont ever.

I might also just like it because I've been playing the shit out of Chronicles recently.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2011, 01:46:56 AM »
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I don't like the Chronicles design (fashion disaster), but Ayami had a good go at injecting something new into the character. 

The original CV box art still has so much magic about it.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2011, 03:11:14 AM »
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Jorge pretty much layed out all the bad things about Chronicles Simon that I could think of and also the good things too. However I'd also throw in my two cents about his way too feministic facial features which detract from his true European masculinity. In my mind it just isn't Simon.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2011, 04:05:56 AM »
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easiest way to describe...I like them both just as much in different ways..the old Simon belonged to the 90´s, and the chronicles one is perfect for this CV era.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2011, 07:19:30 AM »
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All Ayami's Belmonts have heels and pointy boots. Hell, even Soma has Heels and pointy shoes.

Trevor is really the worse offender.

I think only Alucard's boots are somewhat sensible looking. (Maybe Juste's too)

I can understand Juste, somewhat.  And I can definitely understand Alucard.
Trevor and Simon?  Not so much.  They didn't even make pointy boots at the time (but I'm ignoring that since Castlevania is quite anachronistic in its choice of outfits).

They just don't fit the character.  I guess I'm still thinking he should still be barbarian-like.  The Ayami Kojima design... it's like it half-asses one thing and goes too far into another.  I can see that she had a tough time merging her vision with the designs of old, as it shows in the way some parts of her design don't fit (in my opinion).

Barbarian Furry Boots ... cancelled by ... fashionable pointy tips.
Ancient Leather armor ... cancelled by ... it has a choker turtleneck top.
Roman-Style Studded Leather Belted Skirt ... cancelled by ... only covers half of his body and the other half shows his studded leather tights (wtf).

I actually dig his facial features, and would probably just superimpose 'em over the X68000 Simon and other old Simon designs like the way Jago did it, haha.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2011, 07:22:42 AM »
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The thing I do like about his face is that he looks young (versus his rugged face in Akdra X68k). I'm pretty sure he was in his 20's during that time.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2011, 09:16:33 AM »
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Red hair made him more unique. Tell me what other Belmonts have red hair. And as the most popular Belmont, I think he deserves to stand out a bit more.
Being unique =/= being good-looking. I could accept this design as "Simon" if it was less unique and more...grey and simple, instead trying to be memorable as a forest fire. It's memorable allright, just not in the good way for me. If anything Trevor's design could be an ideal base for Simon's Kojima design. Rugged, but stylish, somewhat simple, yet with flair of fashionism.

Hm...flair...I think that's the right word. Simon's Kojima design should have been more barbarian, having only flair of her usual distinct "stylishness". Barbarian, but with slight hint of aristocracy and stylishness. Kojima's Simon is just too much about style, like top model or something. And leatherbelt disaster!Simon of Judgement fame is something out of this world completely. Still in general he is somehow ended up less garish, if only because of less bright coloring.

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I like the Chronicles design, I just like the CV4 one better.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2011, 09:23:41 AM »
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Kojima's Trevor design was far from perfect. Thigh-high boots and another pretty face. Sure, it was better than Chronicles Simon, but still not an ideal template.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2011, 12:04:39 PM »
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The thing I do like about his face is that he looks young (versus his rugged face in Akdra X68k). I'm pretty sure he was in his 20's during that time.

People of the era in which Simon lived didn't live very long and that is a well-known fact. 25 to 30 years, 40 if you're lucky enough and many died due to combat, famine or disease. Even if Simon were in his 20's he'd still be rather rugged-looking due to the environment he's dwelling in, the type of food being available to him, the heavy mineral content in water from the mountains he drinks, and the fact that he's a medieval warrior who probably got his face banged up good a few times in training. Having rugged looks tells us exactly what type of person he is and what occupation he has. Kojima gave him a face that doesn't speak of combat at all, but of aristocracy, social gatherings, romanticism; the type of looks that have never gazed upon the foul ranks of the undead before nor experienced combat. Trever was closer as the lone scar on his left side gave us that impression, though not by much.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2011, 01:09:03 PM »
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Simon was 38(!) according to that Konami Track and Field game.



And I totally forgot his chibi appearance in that game.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2011, 02:57:02 PM »
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I perfer the "Conan the Barbarian" Simon look, Chronicles Simon looks like he's about to tell me the safety word.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2011, 03:43:52 PM »
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To be honest, Classicvania Belmonts were never really era appropriate in costume either. The Barbarian look is pretty out of place for their eras.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2011, 04:05:39 PM »
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To be honest, Classicvania Belmonts were never really era appropriate in costume either. The Barbarian look is pretty out of place for their eras.

I agree.

The only one who was really era appropriate was Richter during his SOTN appearance and his Rondo opening appearance (when he is looking at the map).

Also if you want to count Julius, and Leon's knight attire.

I think if albus was a belmont he would have definitely been the most "era appropriately dressed".

On the topic of Simon's look.

I actually like his chronicles look over almost all his others besides SCV4.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2011, 04:50:05 PM »
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Julius outfit might be a tad awkward in 2035. . . it's kinda awkward for 2011 hehe

but then again who can say what qualifies as "awkward" nowadays

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