Topic: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion

[crisis]

I have to disagree there. It is easily overrated. And I only mentioned it because you reminded me of it. I try not to think of things i think are crap. It is definitely overrated. If GoW is the Audi of action games in this era, then either Audi's suck this era or action game sucked this era. Seeing as DMC and NG games are still good and of this era. I guess Audi's just suck this era.

Well I must assume you just have poor or questionable tastes in good action games, then. A game that achieves in spades what a lot of other games only strive to do is not "overrated," sorry (*coughheavenlyswordninjabladedantesinferno*cough*). There are countless games that have tried to emulate the scale of GoW [with some success], hence the coined term "God-of-War Clone;" often imitated, never duplicated.

It's a shame you've never drove an Audi, though. excellent vehicles 

Combat is pretty boring. Can be fun for a little bit, but is repetitive, quickly. That is my main problem with it. I won't lie, GoW2 seemed better than the first, though I haven't played it much. It's still very sub par in comparison to DMC and NG.

Combat can get challenging as the game progresses with harder enemies. Hitting "square square triangle" won't get you through the hordes of enemies; you have to dodge & maneuver your techniques accordingly. I just recently played the entire series on the hardest setting, trust me. It's fun, crazy brutal combat in Ancient Greece; It really does a good job into bringing you into the mythology, the endless struggle against the Titans & Gods, the beautiful architecture/locales, etc. The stylish methods Ryu & Dante use are different and unique, yes, but that certainly doesn't give GoW's combat any less merit.

As for "misguided" opinions... I find that laughable. The guy I talked to, did play it, and all 3 in fact. He actually liked the first 2, although I can't understand why, and did not like 3 too much. It just seems like you are taking what you want out of it and disregarding the rest. That doesn't seem right, espeically when it's pretty much the same subject.

Compared to the seemingly single guy you talked to, I have a lot of friends not just on the internet that have played it & none of them didn't have any negative feelings towards it. I, myself have played all 5 (6 if you include the cell-phone game, yet another that got great reviews) and each of them contain the same fun factor as the previous installment. Everyone I've talked to basically say the same. What am I disregarding? That there are annoying QTE's? That the story sucks? I noted that there are some flaws here & there, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.


It's not underrated or overrated; it's just awesome. 

[Las]

Ok for some of you i must heavily disagree. If you are saying wow, star wars online games, call of booty, Gow, or even perhaps halo i could agree. But some of you i can't agree with, megaman 2, FF7, Super Smash Bros Brawl. Dude not in my books. Those games have fun and playability all over them. Including some amazing sound tracks none the less. FF7 especiallly on that one. Plus the fact that FF7 was like probably the first 2 disc rpg cause of it's lenght was amazing for it's time. Megaman 2 was a total upgrade from megaman 1 with the dimming situation of it being far easier to beat. Megaman 1 was definetly tougher than 2 or 3. It was technically the only one i didn't beat without using that hit the start or select button to morph down from the ceiling. It was just hard as hell to get past the rock monster i remember. Super Smash bros brawl yeah that game just totally kicks ass. I'd almost say that in the one true event that it stayed similarly true to it's predecessor in Smash bros melee was actually a good thing. That addition of the power ball,snake, sonic, etc was pretty stellar. Although i will admit some of the players are defintely overpowered. Snakes special is just sick, as well as yoshi's as opposed to donkey kong's lame ass special or luigis'. Bout the only thing i think they coulda done better with was fairly balancing the specials better. But it offered more too which i thought was cool,plus you make your own levels. I just wish zelda could indefenitly kill you with her arrow as opposed to only maybe depending on your rate of damage. To be honest if anyone were to say assassin's creed or dante's inferno are overated i would have to laugh. They are defeintly kick ass for sure. One game you could put on the list of one of most underated at the time would be Wizards n' Warriors a now classic from the nes era. I remember that game being a b side game most people i knew didn't know about it lwhere like" i've never even heard of that game" I got it, showed my friends and they were like holy crap this game is good. Defintly i'd say at one point that was a defiently a B side game. Maybe cause of when it came out. It sure as hell didn't stay that way though. ANother nes game undertaed and i can't remember the name of it but i think it's called werewolf. Sorta like altered beast  but going through the game it actually kick alot of ass imo.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Whoa whoa, hold on there.
GOOD games can indeed be overrated.
Overrated is when you have a ridiculously huge following of devoted fans which will blindly follow a game, whether it is a good one or not.

Once again, FFVII falls into this.  It's not a bad game.  In face, one can argue that it's a solid good game.  However, the ridiculously large cult of a following it has and the praise that it often (arguably undeservedly) it gets put it into "Overrated" status.  Yeah it's good, but it ain't the second coming of Christ.

EDIT:
Las, what have I told you about those walls of text of yours?

[Las]

Ha ha ha lol. Yeah i can go on some long rants,huh? Ok maybe i can see that being the case with FF7 some what overated, ok, but in all honesty does it really stand out like a cult following to call of duty, WOW, or halo,besides it was a great game, don't you take that into account? It was hugh for it's time,but then agian it was revolutionary as well. Call of duty? WOW, these are but generic rip offs of other games. Yeah they add more and have a somewhat diffrent theme,missions, perks, achievements etc. But the realization of ,say, call of duty, is that it is structed after 007 goldeneye. Wow, that is not the first of it's kind either. What FF7 was in terms of in the FF world  is probably not only the most popular one( i'll give you that if you say mass following) but it also had a number of cool things you could do in it(unique). Poor Aeries though. Aww the ending was....yeah depressing, i know. I realize it wasn't the first rpg or anything but it defintly had some unique feature about it. Plus materia,chocobos, aw man that was one of my favorites of FF. I would totally agree with FF12.. The online one anyways. Yeah, way overated! I'll agree on that one. I remember everyone i knew getting that one and yeah, not all the hype imo. I personally have not played past 8. If i remember it's the one with Yuna. Yeah that was good too. Well i would like to agree with that but i found the game really enjoyable. If i just followed everyone else into a game like call of duty or GOW i might agree with you totally but i totally liked FF7 right off the bat. That and FF8 sit atop my list of rpgs I will admit though neither of them beat Chrono Trigger. Either that or Lunar the silver star are probably my all time favorites. I really would disagree if you said either of those too. Though Secret of Mana isn't a true rpg it's right their a top the list aswell.

[Las]

Sorry for the double posts, but i'm suprised no body brought up any mario games. 3 imparticular, because most of them do totally kick ass. I am scratching my head about Super Mario Sunshine, super mario 64, and super mario kart 64. I'll start with smk64 cause it's not that bad of a game. It's just not as good as the others imo. Most of friends agree. The snes,gamecube, and wii versions all kick ass in comparison. For Super Mario 64, i was really not impressed at all. I even tried too. It wasn't happenin'. Though it was hard to picture mario in 64bit 3d. It was more like half the levels seemed barren,some of them with little to know enemies, or bosses? Plus you fall off the edge easy in the game. I just didn't see the hype like zelda 64(perhaps one of the best in the series). With that being said they had some good parts to them, but neither of them sucked as bad as super mario sunshine. That game in all honesty didn't impresse me at all, it actually was quite dissapointing. I found the game lame that you shoot things and propell with a water backback. Yeah i don't know,something aobut that game just flat out sucked. I usually have great thing to say about mario games. Mario, plus SMB1,2,3, SMB world, galaxy,SMB wii. All very kick ass and none of those would even come close to an overated list for me,but the other 3, yeah, they go in the overated list and far up it as far as i'm concerned.

[Tanatra]

Ha ha ha lol. Yeah i can go on some long rants,huh?

He's not talking about the length of your posts, he's talking about your failure to grasp the importance of paragraphs.

[crisis]

The thing about FFVII is that it has so many flaws in it's design, so much shit that has been brought up so many times that it has still somehow been elevated into overrated status because of it's cult following & "wow" factor when the CG commercials first hit the airwaves in 1997, the likes of which haven't really been done before in a video game. It certainly deserves the title as "overrated," as does other aformentioned games. God of War, however, doesn't contain flawed design; it's quite intuitive & it's obvioiusly accomplished what it's set out to do. FFVII hasn't aged well at all, but I doubt the first God of War released in 2005 will be looked back as an awful or shitty game.

The term overrated can be used in the context as "a game that doesn't truly deserve all the praise it gets." I don't think God of War falls into this category, at all. The developers really displayed some true talent in making those games and it shows, and I'm certain the next installment will blow every other action game out the water once again! 

[Las]

Ok my bad, lemme back it up a second here. When i seen people putting down GOW. I thought they're refering to Gears of War, not God of War. Yeah clearly God of War imo is a much better game, perhaps as good as FF7 or even better, in terms of awesome it's right their( i would agree with you). Techincally i haven't played through all the way to know completely, but yeah i do agree it's an awesome game, not overatted imo. . Gears of war imo is defienlty not the same calibur. And yes i know they'll be those who'll disagree but yeah it just feels like somewhat of a doom type clone. Just much more upgraded and all that extra jazz. But you see what i'm getting at. FF7 is the clone of nothing. It's orginally is what drives it? that's what's so great about it. I could even agree that it is somewhat overated(not fully like some of these hyped up games). But no one is gonna tell me that it's as overated as Gears of War, Call of Duty, Wow. No way! i would totally disagree. I mean that is game i could totally get into and even go back and play.  I could see it even making the top 20 list perhaps. But there's no way it would top those, not imo anyways. And at best super mario sunshine was a complete and utter joke. Really? my niece didn't even like the game. That outta say something about overated,huh? When we are talking about overated, are we talking in terms of it's popularity verses it's enjoyability. Or soemthing vastly differentl? I mean if a game is hyped and everyone knows about it and gets it and are not impressed, is that what you mean. Or being overall overated in terms of popularity in general sales of a game,compared to what the game should sell. You could probably break the word "overated" into a couple sections possibly. Based on commercial or non commercial?

[Kale]

Compared to the seemingly single guy you talked to, I have a lot of friends not just on the internet that have played it & none of them didn't have any negative feelings towards it. I, myself have played all 5 (6 if you include the cell-phone game, yet another that got great reviews) and each of them contain the same fun factor as the previous installment. Everyone I've talked to basically say the same. What am I disregarding? That there are annoying QTE's? That the story sucks? I noted that there are some flaws here & there, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.


It's not underrated or overrated; it's just awesome. 

Ye...no, it's not awesome.

When I said disregarding, I meant, the guy's opinion, oh he said the first 2 is awesome, that's fine, the 3rd isn't, that's misguided!

So what if I had few opinions on the matter? And I didn't only have one opinion on it, I had more, I just pointed out that one guy because even he said 3 wasn't that good, when he liked the first 2.

It is overrated, because of preceisely what you said, it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. Just because it has a huge fan base does not mean it isn't overrated, as pointed out in your FF7 analogy. GoW has lots of flaws, but just like FF7's fan base, you don't see them because you're a fan. What you might think is a flaw in FF7, isn't a flaw to others, so I guess your opinion would be misguided on that then?

[crisis]

Ye...no, it's not awesome.

It actually is, though!

It is overrated, because of preceisely what you said, it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. Just because it has a huge fan base does not mean it isn't overrated, as pointed out in your FF7 analogy. GoW has lots of flaws, but just like FF7's fan base, you don't see them because you're a fan. What you might think is a flaw in FF7, isn't a flaw to others, so I guess your opinion would be misguided on that then?

GoW has only a few flaws here & there, but they're nothing so glaring that it makes you go "WTF THEY REALLY SCREWED THAT PART UP, THIS GAME IS SHIT NOW." I DO see & acknowledge the few (too much reliance on QTE's, design errors in some boss fights especially the scorpion in GoW3, to name a few), but they're not game-breaking in the least. FF7, on the other hand, has been heavily criticized thousands of times more than GoW, because it contains way more flaws (and it has 6 previous entries to live up to).


You basically said "the game is shit, because it has flaws & the praise/accolades it's received are unwarranted because of it's flaws." That's just not true, but hey, that's how you feel. It's not overrated, it's rated just fine. The reviewers point out it's flaws but like I said, the good far outweighs the bad and it's obvious. Can any game just be good or excellent nowadays without it instantly being labelled "pff, overrated, NEXT"? I'm just staunchly defending it because I said I would... and I'm a man of my word *joker voice*


To borrow a quote from JR in this very thread,

The story in the sequels wasn't quite as satisfying to me as the original, but that was always just a small nag for me. I always thought they were fun, well-presented games. Never really understood the hate, either.

[Sumac]

I like how Crisis claim that (acclaimed by many) FF7 have bunch of flaws, while protecting GOW as rigorous fanboy, claiming that people who hate it, have bad taste.
Something doesn't add up. 

[crisis]

I like how Sumac doesn't really know how to read, because I never said "anyone that hates GoW has bad taste." The remark about Kale's friend having questionable taste was a joke, which obviously flew right over your head, like most things people say on this forum so I'm not surprised by your reaction. All I said was it was an awesome game, and doesn't fit the "overrated" status some people want to deem it, and I would defend it if anyone tries to shit on it. I apologize for even comparing the two, since one is a helluva lot better than the other.

and you roll your eyes too much I SNAP MAH FINGAZ & ROLL MAH EYES 

[Neobelmont]

Whoa whoa, hold on there.
GOOD games can indeed be overrated.
Overrated is when you have a ridiculously huge following of devoted fans which will blindly follow a game, whether it is a good one or not.

Suikoden II

and tales of symphonia fall into this category. Love em both but within the fanbase these would be the "overated" ones but for once I do not care I love em so much their not perfect yes,but they are really good.

I just love the opening themes to symphonia like the gc op

Tales of Symphonia (Opening) GameCube

and I freaking love Doom yet I feel that maybe it is a little overated just abit.

I can never forget this theme

Doom Main Theme Level 1 (Original In Game Soundtrack)

 Just because it is not mainstream does mean it cannot be overated.

[Sumac]

The remark about Kale's friend having questionable taste was a joke, which obviously flew right over your head, like most things people say on this forum so I'm not surprised by your reaction.

Considering your usual behavior on this forum, rudeness was to be expected.
However, if I accidently accused you of making rude remark that in reality intended to be joke, than let me bring my apologize. I hope next when you want to make such a statement, you will make it more clear, that it was a joke.
And not in backhanded comment, that looks like it was hastily put together. 

[PFG9000]

The second I saw this thread, I knew it was destined to be locked.  And it certainly seems to be headed that way now.