Topic: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline

[darkwzrd4]

The truth of the matter is that Iga may not of been the first one to say the whip was holy.  When you play as Richter in SotN, the whip seems to do holy damage.

[Sul_Yong]

I think they should also make a game about Quincy Morris. Yeah we know that IGA took a page from Bram Stroker's novel in Bloodlines but I'm still curious how would the plot turn out. My friend read the novel and he said he didn't find any Quincy Morris there. How did the Belmont clan lost their powers and how did the Morris take over the vampire killer?

Uhh, whoever read it didn't really read it... Quincy Morris was the only main character to die in that book besides Lucy... and I really don't think they should make a Castlevania version of Bram Stoker's Dracula, especially if the plot point is that Morris is the Belmont when Van Helsing and Harker do practically all the work, and Morris's only moment of being interesting is stabbing Dracula in the heart while Harker lopped off Drac's head with his Ghurka knife... The game would have to throw Morris into the spotlight which wouldn't do good for the story at all without making anyone who read and actually enjoyed reading Dracula (if they exist, I haven't met anyone who enjoyed reading that) mad. But I digress... I just enjoyed the fact that 1800s 100 year resurrection of Dracula was the novel. That was a stroke of genius in the story, as long as they don't make it a game and try to explain it... keeping it vague on how it connects, to me, works pretty well.

[X]

It's a little too late to think that making a CV version of Bram Stoker's Dracula would force Quincy into the spotlight because CV: Bloodlines has already done that. And if you put it in this perspective; If Quincy is a Belmont by blood then Harker would not have been able to cut off Dracula's head prior to Quincy inflicting the mortal wound with his knife. The book states that Quincy impaled Dracula's Heart with his knife, correct? So now that Dracula is severely weakened due to Belmont influence, Harker was then able to sever Dracula's head with little trouble. Bram Stoker's Dracula can be worked into the CV universe. People just have to sit down and run it through our heads until they come up with solutions that can make it work without creating continuity errors.

[DragonSlayr81]

It's a little too late to think that making a CV version of Bram Stoker's Dracula would force Quincy into the spotlight because CV: Bloodlines has already done that. And if you put it in this perspective; If Quincy is a Belmont by blood then Harker would not have been able to cut off Dracula's head prior to Quincy inflicting the mortal wound with his knife. The book states that Quincy impaled Dracula's Heart with his knife, correct? So now that Dracula is severely weakened due to Belmont influence, Harker was then able to sever Dracula's head with little trouble. Bram Stoker's Dracula can be worked into the CV universe. People just have to sit down and run it through our heads until they come up with solutions that can make it work without creating continuity errors.

Or, Castlevania's depiction of those events are different. Maybe, in CV's depction, Quincey Morris didn't inflict the wound with a knife. Maybe in CV's depction, he he wen't all out "Belmont Lineage", asked Harker and the others to step back, brought out the VK and had a CV-esque battle with the Dark Lord. Hell, maybe he went up ahead(left Harker and the others behind) and did the full battle, defeating Dracula(no need from Harker), but was left on the verge of death. CV's take on Stoker's events would be just as "different" as CV's takes on WWI were, creative liberties and all.

[Sul_Yong]

Bram Stoker's Dracula
"But, on the instant, came the sweep and flash of Jonathan's great knife.
I shrieked as I saw it shear through the throat.  Whilst at the same moment
Mr. Morris's bowie knife plunged into the heart."

...Yeah, they'd definitely need those liberties...

[JVolz28]

Currently, I would be the most interested in a plot set after SoTN detailing how all the Belmonts got amnesia and couldn't touch the whip until 1999. And perhaps a story that follows up on that cliff hanger ending from Simon's Quest?

The only true sequel to Simon's Quest is Harmony of Dissonance. I say this because it is the ONLY Castlevania game to pick up after Simon. Yes, Rondo onward did that, but I'm talking about almost immediately after Simon. Juste makes mention to Simon in the beginning of the game.

[X]

The only true sequel to Simon's Quest is Harmony of Dissonance. I say this because it is the ONLY Castlevania game to pick up after Simon. Yes, Rondo onward did that, but I'm talking about almost immediately after Simon. Juste makes mention to Simon in the beginning of the game.

Except that the true ending of Simon's Quest shows Dracula's hand come out from his grave, whilst in HoD there is no Dracula to be had. Instead we are introduced to Maxim's evil doppelganger brought about by his possession of Dracula's remains. And at the end Maxim's evil self could not corrupt Maxim so instead he couples with the remains to bring about a new body for himself. While it is Dracula's body the soul of Dracula doesn't resurrect with it. And HoD takes place 50 years after CV II whereas the true sequel that has to do with Dracula's hand coming out of his grave has yet to be touched upon.

[JVolz28]

Except that the true ending of Simon's Quest shows Dracula's hand come out from his grave, whilst in HoD there is no Dracula to be had. Instead we are introduced to Maxim's evil doppelganger brought about by his possession of Dracula's remains. And at the end Maxim's evil self could not corrupt Maxim so instead he couples with the remains to bring about a new body for himself. While it is Dracula's body the soul of Dracula doesn't resurrect with it. And HoD takes place 50 years after CV II whereas the true sequel that has to do with Dracula's hand coming out of his grave has yet to be touched upon.

Given the way that the rest of the series shows Dracula's subsequent resurrections, the hand popping out of the grave isn't truly important. It was also established that Dracula resurrects every 100 years. For him to be defeated by Simon and then suddenly rise again would violate that part of the series' canon.

[X]

Given the way that the rest of the series shows Dracula's subsequent resurrections, the hand popping out of the grave isn't truly important. It was also established that Dracula resurrects every 100 years. For him to be defeated by Simon and then suddenly rise again would violate that part of the series' canon.

True. But wasn't it CVIII's story that established the hundred year cycle or close to it? So by that reckoning Konami could have easily made more sequel games with Simon vs Dracula had CVIII not come out. I always felt that SCV4 would've made an excellent sequel to CVII just because of the similarities of the tombstone in both the game's cutscenes.

[JVolz28]

True. But wasn't it CVIII's story that established the hundred year cycle or close to it? So by that reckoning Konami could have easily made more sequel games with Simon vs Dracula had CVIII not come out. I always felt that SCV4 would've made an excellent sequel to CVII just because of the similarities of the tombstone in both the game's cutscenes.

I feel basically the exact same way about SCV4. Due to the added levels and extra bosses, the game truly could have been a sequel. I think CV3 did something about the 100 year cycle, but I'm not sure.

[Nagumo]

I think the original intent was that Dracula wasn't actually dead at the end of CVII. Even if that wasn't the case, it wouldn't really have mattered since CVII ignored the 100 year rule as well. It's the Japanese manual of the first Castlevania that establishes the rule, by the way.

[A-Yty]

It's not a rule, it's a legend.

[Nagumo]

Yup, the legend is a bit inaccurate. The actual rule is that Dracula resurrects when the faith in God is forgotten, which roughly happens every 100 years.

[JVolz28]

Or if someone makes a sacrifice. Rondo of Blood.

[thernz]

probably just a part of the ritual, like how they crushed a heart in chronicles