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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2012, 12:59:22 PM »
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Yes, that is what I meant, during the game.
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2012, 02:26:51 PM »
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Where did the other Belmont hunters come from? Who was Trevor's great-great-great-great-great-grandfather? And who was his grandfather? And the grandfather of him? If they were all descendants of Leon, then who was Leon's wife? Or did he birth a child out of wedlock? It's 99% certain that Sara wasn't the mother of his children.
Those are the reasons (amongst the others) that I have with the old CV timeline. Those question so simple to answer and they are kind of important to the overall timeline, yet, they were never answered.

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And where does LoI take place, even?
Some generic mish-mash incarnation of Europe, I assume.

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2012, 02:39:21 PM »
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 If they do a game about that it would be cool, but PLEASE, dont mention the damn DMC (Demon Castle War, not Devil May Cry), they hyped so much this DMC thing that now its almost impossible to they do a game that will be true to our expectatives.
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2012, 03:22:52 PM »
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If they do a game about that it would be cool, but PLEASE, dont mention the damn DMC (Demon Castle War, not Devil May Cry), they hyped so much this DMC thing that now its almost impossible to they do a game that will be true to our expectatives.
Dude, that one's abbreviated as DCW, not DMC.
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2012, 03:27:45 PM »
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Dude, that one's abbreviated as DCW.

Thanks for pointing that, I dont know how I did this type of error, it only shows how my head isnt okay I think. xD
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2012, 03:56:22 PM »
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And where does LoI take place, even?

somewhere in Romania

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Some generic mish-mash incarnation of Europe, I assume.

this is actually a more accurate description of LoS' locale

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2012, 05:45:58 PM »
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Eh, I like LoI pretty well. Everything about it has grown on me over time. I still think LoD is by far the best 3Dvania but LoI is a good game, that includes the story.
I still prefer to think that Castlevania Legends happened though, and that the later Belmonts are all descendants of Dracula by way of Alucard. It adds a whole other dimension to the struggle. Inheriting the weight of the sins of the father, but also the strength to combat him. It's only fitting that Dracula's fate would be bound by his own bloodline.
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2012, 06:13:14 PM »
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Eh, I like LoI pretty well. Everything about it has grown on me over time. I still think LoD is by far the best 3Dvania but LoI is a good game, that includes the story.
I still prefer to think that Castlevania Legends happened though, and that the later Belmonts are all descendants of Dracula by way of Alucard. It adds a whole other dimension to the struggle. Inheriting the weight of the sins of the father, but also the strength to combat him. It's only fitting that Dracula's fate would be bound by his own bloodline.

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Soma: So why did you two called me Genya?
Genya: I need to tell you the truth, my name isnt Genya...
Alucard: ...its Alucard.
Soma: What?!
Alucard: And you are my father.
Soma: What?!!!
Julius: Im impressed that you told the truth to him, but why you called me here?
Alucard: Father, Julius is your grandgrandgrandgrandgrandgrand...
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...grandson.
Julius & Soma: WHAT?!!!!!!!

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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2012, 02:05:32 AM »
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LoI wasn't in Romania. The ending clearly states that Mathias sought refuge in foreign lands. If he was in Romania to begin with, there's not a whole lot foreign about Wallachia.

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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2012, 07:38:17 AM »
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Hi, I'm new here. I was just reading through this thread and though I haven't played LoI (only got into CV less then a year ago), I've seen the ending and I've interpret it differently. I did not see desires for revenge in Leon's words but rather concern and love for his friend Mattias as well as love and respect for Sara's last wish. While admitting that he defeated Walter with hatred in his heart, he did it not for revenge but to fulfill her wish: preventing others from suffering the same cursed fate. this is what I believe Leon passed down to his descendents: the desire to protect humanity from the cursed fate (with Dracula being the main focus). Just my two cents.

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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2012, 07:49:10 AM »
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Hi, I'm new here. I was just reading through this thread and though I haven't played LoI (only got into CV less then a year ago), I've seen the ending and I've interpret it differently. I did not see desires for revenge in Leon's words but rather concern and love for his friend Mattias as well as love and respect for Sara's last wish. While admitting that he defeated Walter with hatred in his heart, he did it not for revenge but to fulfill her wish: preventing others from suffering the same cursed fate. this is what I believe Leon passed down to his descendents: the desire to protect humanity from the cursed fate (with Dracula being the main focus). Just my two cents.
Welcome teddyj, I dont finished LoI so I dont have seen the ending yet, but what you are saying here is really interesting, if someone that already played LoI until the end can kindly confirm that I would be happy, since I dont wanna to see the ending myself and spoil my future gameplay. :)
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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2012, 09:06:34 AM »
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Sorry guys, Leon's motives are of pure hatred.  While he does fight Mathias/Dracula, he does fight his most loyal minion (Death).  After the battle with Death, Leon tells Death to give Mathias a message which is as follows:

"You have become a cursed being and I will never forgive you.  This whip and my kinsmen will destroy you one day .  From this day on, the Belmont clan will hunt the night!!!"

It would seem that Leon's motives are pure revenge.  Though it is possible that over the generations, this personal grudge is forgotten and the motives for fighting Dracula become more selfless.
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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2012, 05:20:45 PM »
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Or until Leon gets laid and settles down.

Face it, you can't stay bitter for very long when a cute girl is bouncing on your schlong.
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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2012, 06:14:59 PM »
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That's a, uh, rather interesting way to put it.
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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2012, 06:41:42 PM »
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Or until Leon gets laid and settles down.

Face it, you can't stay bitter for very long when a cute girl is bouncing on your schlong.
I doubt it.  Considering that he was completely manipulated and ended up having to sacrifice someone he loved, I doubt he'd just mellow out that easily.  Especially considering that the one who manipulated him is someone he saw as a close friend.

The same could be said of Mathias.  Did he just move on when his wife died?  No.  He concocted that plan just to spite "God".
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