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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #90 on: September 30, 2012, 06:35:25 PM »
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I hope konami pick the series back up after LOS, but if it "has to be" a western company, then I want it to be Wayforward. I played Double Dragon Neon and I love it (especially when Skullmageddon says "Have at you" at the beginning of the first boss fight).
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« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2012, 04:54:50 AM »
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2012, 05:06:03 AM »
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2012, 05:26:36 AM »
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ah man. another october without a Japanese Castlevania to look forward to. the last game in the series I enjoyed was order of ecllesia which was about 4 years ago. which action adventure games has everyone been playing to get by?
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2012, 05:36:37 AM »
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2012, 01:54:27 PM »
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I hope konami pick the series back up after LOS

Konami is a publisher, not a development studio (much like Nintendo). That would be like saying "I hope Nintendo picks the series back up after Metroid: Other M!"

Konami's had full reign of the series (that's why they sent Kojima to MS for consultation), so there really isn't anything to "pick up" so to speak.

game in the series I enjoyed was order of ecllesia which was about 4 years ago. which action adventure games has everyone been playing to get by?

I've been playing Castlevania, Lords of Shadows and Order of Ecclesia lately. I like going back and playing games I really enjoyed, especially if nothing new in the market provides the gaming satisfaction I'm looking for. Though with Ecclesia it's more of finally getting around to beating it. I got bored part way through (I don't remember why) and stopped.
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2012, 02:01:27 PM »
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Though with Ecclesia it's more of finally getting around to beating it. I got bored part way through (I don't remember why) and stopped.

the level design does get plain and repetitious at times. I read in a 1up article recently that IGA was barely given any money to produce some of the Castlevania titles he worked on. poor jappo
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2012, 02:36:23 PM »
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the level design does get plain and repetitious at times. I read in a 1up article recently that IGA was barely given any money to produce some of the Castlevania titles he worked on. poor jappo

I would prefer if you could refrain from using racially derogatory terms in the future, thank you.

I've read online (and around here) that Iga was grossly underfunded for making the CV titles (at least compared to his SotN budget or budget for other Konami games), which is why we see a lot of recycled sprites from previous CV titles, and partly why I think Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane stopped working on CV titles; Iga just couldn't afford them anymore. I have to admit, I wish the artist that worked of OoE had also worked on AoS and PoR, because they have beautiful work and excellent design sense.

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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2012, 02:58:55 PM »
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I don't understand what the problem is. Why would anybody "run away" after seeing "the whole picture" of the timeline? The storyline can effectively be summarized in a few brief paragraphs. Case in point: http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/cv-por/game-castlevaniapor.htm
Once again, I believe, if developers really would like to create a fullfleshed entry into the Old Canon, they must have much more intimate knowledge of the story, rather than just few paragraphs.
With such approach they can create something, that will mess up the timeline and anger fans.

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I would argue the only thing you need to know that each Belmont is a descendant of the other. But if you simply must have a clear answer, there is a family tree in a LoI guide that answers some of your questions. The Belnades family branch and the Morris family branch came into existence sometime after Trevor and Sypha married but before Christopher was born. So Trevor and Sypha had at least two children, one who could continue the Belmont family and one that continued the Belnades family. It's possible they had a third child, who could continue the Morris family, but it's also possible the Morris branch came into existence at a later point.
Its still quite vague for me.
I don't want to have a "complete guide for Belmonts family genealogy, that include every single relative", but just main family.

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I also know that Christopher is Simon's great-grandfather (source is the Adventure Rebirth website).
Thank you, I didn't know about that. :)     

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Yes, Judgment hints at there being something going on behind the scenes. It was first brough up in that game, though. They are probably intending to reveal what that is for a future game. Possible the 1999 game or something set after Aria of Sorrow.
If there will be next game in the old canon.

I am agree with the rest, though, I think, that for the first time "bigger picture" was hinted at COD with the introduction of Time Travellers.

As for Reaper - maybe he is like japanese god of death, still it needs some clarification.

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But I guess you also want to know why all the Belmonts came to live in one village and forget about their heritage? Without a doubt, it has something to do with why the Belmonts lost the whip.
Sorry, if I formulated my question a bit unclear. I meant exactly what you said. And the answer for this is still wasn't provided.

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Sometimes keeping secrets is a good way to keep the audience interested in the story. It's a commonly used trope. Of course you shouldn't introduce secrets for the sake of having secrets and never answers them (which also happens from time to time) but I doubt that is the case here.
The thing, it could work with something that have regular / scheduled installments, like TV-series, comic books, movies, e.t.c.
With the Castlevania the problem is that later games jumped all over the place. Or rather "all over the time". One game set up something like could have been an interesting story or introduced new elements, that could have been elaborated, but the very next game jumped at another point in timeline and didn't answer anything.

Basically, it's like, if writer decided to publish his book one chapter per day. But instead publishing chapters in order, he publishing them in completely random sequence. And there is no guarantee that the next chapter  will answer questions or will be published at all.

That's why I am on board with the LOS storytelling - its maybe not very unique, but at least they put effort to tell a coherent story, not random puzzle pieces.

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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2012, 03:12:12 PM »
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I would prefer if you could refrain from using racially derogatory terms in the future, thank you.

 I have to admit, I wish the artist that worked of OoE had also worked on AoS and PoR, because they have beautiful work and excellent design sense.

I'll respect your request but for the record, I luuuv Japanese peoples

OoE gave me a strong SotN vibe so it is my favorite handheld CV.  The artwork in PoR  is less moody but it still brought up good memories of Rondo of Blood for me.

its in Japanese but I found the webpage for the artist who worked on  OoE:  http://www.backfire.jp/
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #101 on: October 01, 2012, 03:12:37 PM »
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The Belnades family branch and the Morris family branch came into existence sometime after Trevor and Sypha married but before Christopher was born. So Trevor and Sypha had at least two children, one who could continue the Belmont family and one that continued the Belnades family. It's possible they had a third child, who could continue the Morris family, but it's also possible the Morris branch came into existence at a later point.

I guess whoever wrote that family tree (either IGA or someone else) wasn't quite thinking about it. If the Belnades clan is still continuing after Sypha then the only real way for that to happen is if Sypha has relatives of her own, say a Brother or a Cousin. They can't come from the Belmont clan and Sypha would have been absorbed into the Belmont clan herself. Her children would have taken the name Belmont and not Belnades. If Sypha did have a girl child in order for them to explain the continuation of the Belnades name then she would have to marry back into the Belnades family. And that would be incestual. The Morris family is easy to connect the dots; A woman Belmont marries into the Morris clan thus securing her descendants with the powers of the Belmont blood. Easy. I've seen earlier attempts at a family tree which tried to explain the all the families in the CV series (every single character) and all I could see from it was an incest fest. So that particular person didn't know how to do a family tree either. I think maybe the problem is that they are thinking too much about the origins of the supernatural powers that are inherent in all the families rather then being realistic about it and going about making the tree from a biological standpoint which is far more important. Then after the tree has been properly written out THEN apply the supernatural powers explanation.
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2012, 03:57:49 PM »
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I guess whoever wrote that family tree (either IGA or someone else) wasn't quite thinking about it. If the Belnades clan is still continuing after Sypha then the only real way for that to happen is if Sypha has relatives of her own, say a Brother or a Cousin. They can't come from the Belmont clan and Sypha would have been absorbed into the Belmont clan herself. Her children would have taken the name Belmont and not Belnades. If Sypha did have a girl child in order for them to explain the continuation of the Belnades name then she would have to marry back into the Belnades family. And that would be incestual. The Morris family is easy to connect the dots; A woman Belmont marries into the Morris clan thus securing her descendants with the powers of the Belmont blood. Easy. I've seen earlier attempts at a family tree which tried to explain the all the families in the CV series (every single character) and all I could see from it was an incest fest. So that particular person didn't know how to do a family tree either. I think maybe the problem is that they are thinking too much about the origins of the supernatural powers that are inherent in all the families rather then being realistic about it and going about making the tree from a biological standpoint which is far more important. Then after the tree has been properly written out THEN apply the supernatural powers explanation.

Marrying cousins wasn't as uncommon a practice up until about the 20th century, especially in Europe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage#Europe

Nobles and rulers of the time would also marry cousins for political alignment, or what have you, so it really isn't a stretch of the imagination that two powerful clans would also have their children marry to further strengthen the bonds between the Belmonts and Belnades families.

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« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2012, 10:15:22 PM »
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Although there's also nothing stopping one of the branch families having two parents killed off and the other branch adopting the orphaned child back into the main branch.
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Re: when will the next Japanese castlevania be released??
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2012, 10:32:04 PM »
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I'd love it if the next Akumajo Dracula title featured the Byzantine-style art that Kojima made for the CV Music Box





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