Topic: Are the Belmonts the only ones to defeat Drac at his full strength?

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

How would Alucard even know what a Belmont smelled like at the time of Dracula's Curse?

Let's for a moment forget the fact that we're all dealing with supernatural possibilities that are implausable in the real world.
Let's also forget for a moment that these worlds, powers, characters, etc. are not set in stone in terms of abilities, etc.

One could, for the sake of argument, say that a being could have a power like Death's power, where one can see/smell/feel/perceive another's power level (especially if it's over9000).
Since it's never explained, anything could be said about it.  It's like saying "Well why couldn't Alucard turn into a Wolf in Castlevania III?" Simply because it wasn't crafted yet.
Similarly, just because it is not crafted, doesn't mean he never had it.

That's the beauty of videogame characters; they're never fully fleshed out.  There isn't a manual out there stating all of Alucard's canon abilities because if there were, then no new abilities could ever be added.  The ambiguity is the entire reason this thread exists, so throwing monkey wrenches into theories is pretty pointless.

Within the realm of possibility, Alucard could easily have such a power.
And within MY continuity, Alucard met Sonia earlier, which would make things even simpler.  You may not like it, and I'm not claiming it to be canon, but it would make the possibility of this ability very easy to conceive.

[Phoenix7786]

Jesus, dude.  Did you have to take the huge 1080p images and upload 'em as attachments?

Aw shit Jorge I tried putting them in spoilers, but I couldn't get it to work (I don't know forums very well). If they're butchering the bandwidth let me know and I'll remove the pics.

[Koutei]

Dracula Phantom (Dracula Wraith in overseas version) isn't Dracula. I'm Japanese. I have Japanese version.

"The scent of  your blood... you're a Belmont!" - Alucard, SotN -
"Halt! The color of your soul... you must be a Belmont!" - Death, HoD -

I don't think that there is a big mistake in the translation.

[crisis]

However the character portrait is Dracula, and the way he fights is the way Dracula fights. "but it's not Dracula" doesn't make any sense.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Yeah I need a bit of an explanation when it comes to Harmony of Dissonance.
Oh, and so the words from SotN and HoD are not similar in JPN dialogue?  Interesting.  I always thought saying "The color of your soul" sounded really really stupid, so I chalked it up to a mistranslation of "The scent of your blood", since I have heard that "blood" and "soul" are similar in that language.  Thanks for correcting, though.

[X]

Dracula Phantom (Dracula Wraith in overseas version) isn't Dracula. I'm Japanese. I have Japanese version.

So even in the Japanese version the Dracula wraith still isn't Dracula, but Maxim's evil side? The Japanese script seems to say otherwise while the English script would support that very notion.

[Kale]

Just wanted to chime in to say I think it would be stupid if its just limited to the Belmonts. Then it's no longer a humanity then but a specially selected group. Kind of like destiny, ugh...

[X]

Just wanted to chime in to say I think it would be stupid if its just limited to the Belmonts. Then it's no longer a humanity then but a specially selected group. Kind of like destiny, ugh...

That's exactly what it is. The Belmonts fight for and represent humanity, while Dracula represents the forces of evil that are trying to wipe out humanity. Every videogame has it's chosen hero/heroine and in CV's case it is the Belmont clan. If everyone could go up against the Count and win then CV just isn't CV anymore. And with some of the IGA games this trend is unfortunately happening. If any of these heros/heroines weren't fighting Dracula in their represented titles then I'd have no problems with it. But this is not the case and I personally think IGA is doing this so he can tell his own stories the way he wants at the risk of damaging the series more then it already is. And IGA is not the greatest story teller as he makes the game first then wraps the story around it. That's not how you make a game. The story always comes first.

[Kale]

It's fine if the Belmonts are just exceptional, and that's why they can beat Dracula. But if it HAS to be the Belmont clan, as opposed to another exceptional person, then that's when I think it's stupid.

I don't and never did like the whole, ONLY this one person can do it. WHY? Unless they have an unduplicatable ability, why only them?

If it's the whip, and the whip only accepts them, that's fine. But to arbitrarily set in stone only a certain person or clan can, I just think it's dumb and limiting, for no good reason.

EDIT: Of course, if it is the whip, something similar should be possible to make down the road.

[Shiroi Koumori]

I suppose the whip chooses its owner and Belmonts have to go through a ritual in order for the whip to recognize them.

As for the ability of Belmonts to defeat Drac, I suppose it is just their destiny. The light that opposes the darkness.
Why only them? Well, if a lot of people can defeat Drac, then there is no group of heroes that humanity can look up to.

[crisis]

The Belmonts were known to be the most adept Vampire Hunters around, so it's expected for them to be the strongest at battling Dracula and his forces. However, as with most things in life, there can be some exceptions, which is where characters like Shanoa and Hector come in. And even with their exceptional abilities, they're still no match for a full-powered Dracula (the games' plot makes sure of this, with Dracula saying stuff like "the ritual, was it not complete?" "my powers have yet to be fully revived," Shanoa using his own power against him and almost dying in the process, Quincy & John's untimely deaths, etc.)

That's the beauty of the series. The Belmonts will always be at the top, there's no debating that, but there's also a handful of other powerful people that are willing to take up the mantle if need be.

[son_the_vampire]

Desmond Belmont fought drac at full power... canon or not, i would like to see any other belmont take on Drac via cell phone buttons 

[Lelygax]

Desmond Belmont fought drac at full power... canon or not, i would like to see any other belmont take on Drac via cell phone buttons 

Simon Belmont from CV1 greets you, they have a plenty of CV1 for cellphones

[Thomas Belmont]

Let's for a moment forget the fact that we're all dealing with supernatural possibilities that are implausable in the real world.
Let's also forget for a moment that these worlds, powers, characters, etc. are not set in stone in terms of abilities, etc.

One could, for the sake of argument, say that a being could have a power like Death's power, where one can see/smell/feel/perceive another's power level (especially if it's over9000).
Since it's never explained, anything could be said about it.  It's like saying "Well why couldn't Alucard turn into a Wolf in Castlevania III?" Simply because it wasn't crafted yet.
Similarly, just because it is not crafted, doesn't mean he never had it.

That's the beauty of videogame characters; they're never fully fleshed out.  There isn't a manual out there stating all of Alucard's canon abilities because if there were, then no new abilities could ever be added.  The ambiguity is the entire reason this thread exists, so throwing monkey wrenches into theories is pretty pointless.

Within the realm of possibility, Alucard could easily have such a power.
And within MY continuity, Alucard met Sonia earlier, which would make things even simpler.  You may not like it, and I'm not claiming it to be canon, but it would make the possibility of this ability very easy to conceive.

I believe that Alucard used all of his SotN powers in his battle with Trevor and Alucard still got his ass kicked. And let's say, for the sake of argument, that Legends was canon. Trevor would have gotten his powers from both the Belmonts and Alucard/Dracula. He would be unstoppable. It's sad that I have to say this on a Castlevania forum, but no way is anybody in the Castlevania universe a match for a Belmont.

[Lelygax]

Sure... So why Alucard won against Richter in SOTN? They surely are powerful, but they dont are unbeatable :p