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Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« on: March 17, 2013, 07:28:14 PM »
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There's been some discussion regarding the quality of portable Castlevanias lately, especially when it came to comparisons.
Metacritic shows somewhat of a worldwide opinion on the matter, and somehow, it reflects an objective reality.

Not that I completely agree with this ranking, but that's the way it is today.

This is how they rank...

1º Aria of Sorrow 91
1º Circle of the Moon 91
3º Dawn of Sorrow 89
4º Harmony of Dissonance 87
5º Double Pack 86
6º Portrait of Ruin 85
6º Order of Eclessia 85
8º Dracula X Chronicles 80
8º Encore of the Night 80
10º Classic NES Series 74
11º Mirror of Fate 72
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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 09:04:21 PM »
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There's been some discussion regarding the quality of portable Castlevanias lately, especially when it came to comparisons.
Metacritic shows somewhat of a worldwide opinion on the matter, and somehow, it reflects an objective reality.

Not that I completely agree with this ranking, but that's the way it is today.

This is how they rank...

1º Aria of Sorrow 91
1º Circle of the Moon 91
3º Dawn of Sorrow 89
4º Harmony of Dissonance 87
5º Double Pack 86
6º Portrait of Ruin 85
6º Order of Eclessia 85
8º Dracula X Chronicles 80
8º Encore of the Night 80
10º Classic NES Series 74
11º Mirror of Fate 72

I'm surprised Harmony of Dissonance is one of the higher ones, and its a bit disappointing to see the Classic NES Series so low. Were there porting problems or something?

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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 09:09:37 PM »
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There's been some discussion regarding the quality of portable Castlevanias lately, especially when it came to comparisons.
Metacritic shows somewhat of a worldwide opinion on the matter, and somehow, it reflects an objective reality.

Not that I completely agree with this ranking, but that's the way it is today.

This is how they rank...

1º Aria of Sorrow 91
1º Circle of the Moon 91
3º Dawn of Sorrow 89
4º Harmony of Dissonance 87
5º Double Pack 86
6º Portrait of Ruin 85
6º Order of Eclessia 85
8º Dracula X Chronicles 80
8º Encore of the Night 80
10º Classic NES Series 74
11º Mirror of Fate 72

why is rondo only at 80?
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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 09:10:22 PM »
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I'm surprised Harmony of Dissonance is one of the higher ones

Since Harmony of Dissonance is one of my favorite titles, Im not so surprised (except by the fact that everyone bashes the music and graphics).

why is rondo only at 80?

It must be because almost everyone thinks that Castlevania = Metroidvania. Thats not my opinion, but the great majority of new players these days seems to think this way. I've friends that doesnt played Rondo only because its in the clasic style.
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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 09:12:03 PM »
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why is rondo only at 80?

It should have been higher...
Oh, maybe the reviewers hated dying because the game was too difficult for them? LOL.

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 09:15:51 PM »
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It should have been higher...
Oh, maybe the reviewers hated dying because the game was too difficult for them? LOL.

 I know difficulty is actually a legitimate reason for poor reviews nowadays. IIRC, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn got a little slammed for it.

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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 09:20:25 PM »
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It must be because almost everyone thinks that Castlevania = Metroidvania. Thats not my opinion, but the great majority of new players these days seems to think this way. I've friends that doesnt played Rondo only because its in the clasic style.

NO GOD! PLEASE NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOO

Mmmm. I just ... no. Why?

I know difficulty is actually a legitimate reason for poor reviews nowadays. IIRC, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn got a little slammed for it.

But the souls series get's a pass now way...
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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 09:22:42 PM »
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The real question is why isn't the double pack higher? It's two games in one.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 09:23:54 PM »
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But the souls series get's a pass now way...

Probably because it's so good even "bad" gamers can't knock it too hard.

My roommate played nothing but Skyrim, GTAIV, and Fallout, but managed to get him to love Dark Souls just because of how excellent it is.

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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 09:30:36 PM »
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Is there even a place for classic anymore for what cv started as/is ?  :'(
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2013, 09:32:58 PM »
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Maybe the Double Pack is below the others because its "more of the same". Yeah, some reviewers seem to really think like that.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2013, 09:34:14 PM »
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Is there even a place for classic anymore for what cv started as/is ?  :'(

The Adventure: Rebirth only got a 78, and that was pretty darn traditional. Good game too.

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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2013, 09:35:25 PM »
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I didn't notice any problem with Classic NES Series.
As for that game and the Double Pack, I imagine that it's because they don't have anything extra. Critics usually give less points when they don't add something.

And as for DXC, I imagine the score is 80 because it's not Rondo exactly, but a 2.5D remake. I'd like to think Rondo would get more than 90 at least.

MetroidVania is great, but every MetroidVania fan should play all the Classics, or they will be missing many great titles, being especially Rondo the best one to me.

Harmony of Dissonance is great in my opinion, but I know a lot of people that complain about the music and graphics.
In a proper console, graphics look very good. They look bad on emulators, I don't know why.
As for the music, it took me a LONG time to realize and understand what the composer was thinking, but when I got the progressive feeling, it became enjoyable to listen. I've been criticized a lot for liking that soundtrack, but I will always defend it because that's my opinion. Of course, I prefer the traditional CV music, but just as with LoD's music, I like it.

And I don't think difficulty should be so important when evaluating a game. I remember Rebirth being criticized for the difficulty, and it turned out very easy for me, so that I had to play it on hard and classic style, to enjoy it more. That way, the experience was fabulous.
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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2013, 09:36:04 PM »
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The Adventure: Rebirth only got a 78, and that was pretty darn traditional. Good game too.

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Re: Portable Castlevanias Ranking
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2013, 09:41:04 PM »
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Harmony of Dissonance is great in my opinion, but I know a lot of people that complain about the music and graphics.
In a proper console, graphics look very good. They look bad on emulators, I don't know why.
As for the music, it took me a LONG time to realize and understand what the composer was thinking, but when I got the progressive feeling, it became enjoyable to listen. I've been criticized a lot for liking that soundtrack, but I will always defend it because that's my opinion. Of course, I prefer the traditional CV music, but just as with LoD's music, I like it.

Best part of Harmony of Dissonance was the magic/subweapon system. I think it was IGA trying to make something as cool as CotM's card system.

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