Topic: MS: "People is not dumb and won't stick just to the little number"

[Skycaptain Steampunk]

... There is something wrong with this statement.  I'll let you try and figure it out for yourself.

please dont laugh to my english because i am the bad in it, but is the true that lords of shadows is number 1 of sell in history of castlevania.

[Mystic Myotis]

please dont laugh to my english because i am the bad in it, but is the true that lords of shadows is number 1 of sell in history of castlevania.

I wasn't talking about your English.  I was talking about your logic.

[TheouAegis]

Are you talking about how if LoS was really good then the MercurySteam fanboys in addition to the Kojima fanboys in addition to the newly-swayed-by-the-awesomeness-of-LOS MercurySteam fanboy wannabes would have bought so many MoF copies that it'd be the number one selling game in the world?

[Neobelmont]

i make joke of igarashi and the leader ban me 1 week, and here the peoples insuld to mercurysteam and the nothing happen, its not fair this happen, i make a joke, here they laugh to them in the serious but is ok.
mercury steam is not lie, they have the numbers, they sayed, is the true, lords of shadows is the more selled of the history, mirror of fate is not good sell because fanboys hate mercurysteam and bad publicity, they win them objetive, to make excelent game of mercurysteam to sell bad and laugh to it.

I love LoS but MoF has big faults that almost make me HATE IT. I have never HATED a CV NEVER... maybe disliking judgment a lot but not hate even the adventure is not on my high list but I do not hate it. MoF almost makes me angry.  MS made some odd choices and the sells show it. You cannot hold back even in the handheld industry.

[Pfil]

I understand how in many ways MoF was worse than LoS, from the PoV of many people, but from what I experienced, I fund MoF to be superior. To me, it was just the other way. I don't like any of those games, but while LoS really got on my nerves with (what I personally consider) the lack of what it makes Castlevania, I found some redeeming elements in MoF. They are still my least favourite home console and portable games, but at least there was some things right for me in MoF. Always from a personal taste PoV, of course.

[DragonSlayr81]

mirror of fate is not good sell because fanboys hate mercurysteam and bad publicity

There is not enough fanboys in the world to accomplish that. Maybe Mirror of Fate didn't sell well because, well, it just wasn't good. Sometimes games that don't sell well just AREN'T GOOD.

And yes, oddly enough(though maybe not oddly at all), a lot of people disliked MoF, not just fanboy haters. A lot of LoS fans dislike it as well. It's not JUST the "fanboys" or those you've grouped as "fanboys". And it's not some make-believe/fantasy issue. This is happening. This is reality. No amount of dellusional fanboyism will sway this otherwise.

Also, I'm pretty sure you weren't banned because you made one IGA joke. Just like when Sumac was banned all those times ago, it's not just one little thing that gets you banned. There's more to it than that.

[TheouAegis]

Yeah, look at me. I've ducked away from the hammer once or twice. You're more likely to get locked out due to technical difficulties than get banned. I've been banned from my share of forums in the past, so I can say for certain it's not that easy to get banned from here.

Kinda like that awkward moment when you're on an MMORPG cussing and ranting up a storm, then a mod suddenly spawns next to you.
*fwip*
Me: "... Hello!"
Mod: "Hi there."
Me: "..."
Mod: "..."
Me: "Um. So. What's up?"
Mod: "Everything okay?"
Me: "Yeah! Just out here grinding. Trying to find rare drops. You know, the usual."
Mod: "Ok. Have fun then.  Also stop swearing so much and making a scene. You've been warned."
Me: "... Can I kill you? What level is your avatar?"

[Flame]

>fanboys hate MS

>fanboys made MoF sell bad

>LoS still sold very well


seems legit.

[Lelygax]

Yeah, look at me. I've ducked away from the hammer once or twice. You're more likely to get locked out due to technical difficulties than get banned. I've been banned from my share of forums in the past, so I can say for certain it's not that easy to get banned from here.

Kinda like that awkward moment when you're on an MMORPG cussing and ranting up a storm, then a mod suddenly spawns next to you.
*fwip*
Me: "... Hello!"
Mod: "Hi there."
Me: "..."
Mod: "..."
Me: "Um. So. What's up?"
Mod: "Everything okay?"
Me: "Yeah! Just out here grinding. Trying to find rare drops. You know, the usual."
Mod: "Ok. Have fun then.  Also stop swearing so much and making a scene. You've been warned."
Me: "... Can I kill you? What level is your avatar?"

Playing Tibia I learned almost all of my english and exactly what not to do in internet (its obvious to know, since they did it with me and I didnt liked >.>). If atleast Tibia was like before it can teach so many things to those kids. xD

[Mystic Myotis]

>fanboys hate MS

>fanboys made MoF sell bad

>LoS still sold very well


seems legit.

See, this fellow gets it. 

[Chernabogue]

How about stoping to feed the Spanish Steampunk troll?

[Successor The Cruel]

I have been suspicious of this "Greatest Selling Castlevania" thing for a long while. I'm just not seeing anything indicative of that in the circles I frequent. I understand that is my own very limited sphere, but when a game is a hit... I can pretty much easily tell. We all know Halo was a hit. We all know Metal Gear Solid was a hit. Devil May Cry 3. God of War.

Lords of Shadow? Uh... from what I'm able to tell, it is neither oft talked about nor highly acclaimed... so... something's got to give. It's true I don't like the game, but I would give it the credit if it seemed applicable, but it just doesn't seem to be so.

[Ahasverus]

I have been suspicious of this "Greatest Selling Castlevania" thing for a long while. I'm just not seeing anything indicative of that in the circles I frequent. I understand that is my own very limited sphere, but when a game is a hit... I can pretty much easily tell. We all know Halo was a hit. We all know Metal Gear Solid was a hit. Devil May Cry 3. God of War.

Lords of Shadow? Uh... from what I'm able to tell, it is neither oft talked about nor highly acclaimed... so... something's got to give. It's true I don't like the game, but I would give it the credit if it seemed applicable, but it just doesn't seem to be so.

Harmony of Dissonance, the game you have as signature was printed by 500k units worldwide. And it was good selling. All of IGA0s games except the 3D ones were under printed, which makes them rare for collectors. It's not a case of LoS selling the best by "being the best", but LoS selling the best by "being the one that actually was printed more than 10 times".

The LoS sales info came from Konami's fiscal year report. Those numbers are legit as they are made for their investors (and the stock market). I can't believe you seriously compared Halo to Castlevania, hope it was a slip. And for the love of god, I hopeone of  your circles is not Vgchartz. It's banned from neogaf for a reason.

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I think MoF bombing can only send the right message, perhaps, only perhaps, that got the game delayed to 2014, to make it less mercury-ish and more Castlevania-ish as they saw their "genius" ideas were nor understood by us peasant gamers and runchy critics. I hope so.

[Maedhros]

Harmony of Dissonance, the game you have as signature was printed by 500k units worldwide. And it was good selling. All of IGA0s games except the 3D ones were under printed, which makes them rare for collectors. It's not a case of LoS selling the best by "being the best", but LoS selling the best by "being the one that actually was printed more than 10 times".

The LoS sales info came from Konami's fiscal year report. Those numbers are legit as they are made for their investors (and the stock market). I can't believe you seriously compared Halo to Castlevania, hope it was a slip. And for the love of god, I hopeone of  your circles is not Vgchartz. It's banned from neogaf for a reason.

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I think MoF bombing can only send the right message, perhaps, only perhaps, that got the game delayed to 2014, to make it less mercury-ish and more Castlevania-ish as they saw their "genius" ideas were nor understood by us peasant gamers and runchy critics. I hope so.

Exactly what I said: the game was shipped in giant numbers. And for Konami, that's the same as sales.

[Sindra]

I think I hurt Steampunk's feelings. My respect points took a sudden dip. o_O

How could games shipped be the same as games sold? Or is it the whole "distributed to game sellers = selling copies" thing? (honest question...I've never thought of it that way)