Topic: Dave Cox Busted

[Flame]

It certainly doesn't make me think any better of OA, which already has my distaste.

[Ghetto-blasteR]

i don't know the first thing about vgchartz but based strictly on what i've seen here, this is what i'm thinking:

1) in most fora, the burden is on the proponent of a source of information to show that the information is reliable. not only has that not been done here, but plenty has been said here to show that vgchartz is NOT reliable.

2) full disclosure doesn't cure the defect. a willingness to adopt more reliable statistics upon presentation doesn't thereby make unreliable data more reliable.

3) unreliable data (that "might" be true) - so long as it remains unreliable - has no more value than data known to be false.

good luck, op.

[Chernabogue]

It certainly doesn't make me think any better of OA, which already has my distaste.

Same here... I was quite interested in OA at first, but now it sounds like "How to kill Dave Cox 101". Every time he opens his mouth or tweets, it's like if everybody wanted to to prove he's a liar and wrong.

Once again, Cox wouldn't say "Well, LoS is just okay": he's trying to sell a product, and he wants to use the best arguments. Even if the numbers are not the true ones, it doesn't surprise me at all.

(EDIT: Also, LOL @ -2 when no ones debates or quote me...)

[JR]

I don't know why, but I saw the thread title and the first thought in my head was that he got caught driving drunk. o_O

[uzo]

OA has been a joke from the very beginning. I predicted then they would go into everything half heartedly, and never actually do anything or incite any change whatsoever. Fast forward to present day, and surprise! Exactly as predicted.

The leadership has absolutely no idea what it is doing. OA has accomplished nothing but sound like a bunch of entitled babies while confusing, underwhelming, and letting people down with all of their 'projects'.

[beingthehero]

Well they did put lens flares on random AoS screenshots and did that hilariously dead serious '1999 movie script' so they have brought joy to this world, albeit of the unintentional sort.

[Flame]

OA has been a joke from the very beginning. I predicted then they would go into everything half heartedly, and never actually do anything or incite any change whatsoever. Fast forward to present day, and surprise! Exactly as predicted.

The leadership has absolutely no idea what it is doing. OA has accomplished nothing but sound like a bunch of entitled babies while confusing, underwhelming, and letting people down with all of their 'projects'.

Cecil Kain practically IS the leadership all by himself. Cecil Kain IS Operation Akumajo. OA never came off as anything like 100K strong or Operation Rainfall, there is no real leadership structure with actual effort put into it to achieve a common goal. It's just Cecil Kain disliking LoS. Thats all OA is. it does not represent "a majority" of fans, just one person's opinion.

As well as taking a bullshit weird statement from Cox totally seriously, when Cox said that Akumajo Dracula and Castlevania are different entities.

OA takes itself way too seriously, as if someone's life depended on it. And there really sin't much interaction with the "fans". Again, it's really just CK venting his hate for Cox and LoS and how it's ruined the soul of Castlevania. (Something that's just fine as an opinion on a forum, but as a movement to change minds? HA)

there's a reason he only has 700 followers, where the other legit movements have thousands. Even 100K Strong actually reached 100K.

I mean seriously? "we REJECT the legitimacy"? Come on.

[uzo]

Oh yes, I'm aware it's a one man ship but if I supplemented his name in there it would be seen as more of a personal attack. He had driven away anyone who even wanted to help, by his unwillingness to lead instead of dictate.

I tried to help, but he is too much of an egotistical brat to take in any advice from anyone.

I am completely ashamed that anyone may think he speaks for the fanbase, and in turn speaks for me. Likewise, I laugh as all his statements are using "we" instead of "I".

[A-Yty]

[beingthehero]

I wish a-yty led a movement. Like "100,000 strong for Castlevania/Moomintroll crossover". It would be an earth shattering movement of Arab Spring proportions.

[Foffy]

Why not make a "1,000 for Metroid: Other M"?

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Wow, harsh words.

Indeed though, Cecil-Kain, it appears as if the operation is just a soapbox for voicing your personal distaste for the LoS series, by going after its figurehead.
I am not sure this is the direction you want to go, and it doesn't seem very professional.
You might want to have a group of people who can bounce ideas off of one another.

@Everyone else:
C'mon, don't disenfranchise the Aria screenshots.  Some are pretty alright-looking...

[Flame]

I'm not, I kinda like them. The Aria "remastered" Screenshots were alright by my book. (lens flare was a bit much though)

I laugh as all his statements are using "we" instead of "I".

Yknow, you just put your finger on something that always bothered me about OA but I couldnt figure what. That's it. It's just him "soapboxing" as Jorge put it, but he uses words like "we" and "us" as if his opinion represented some kind of large majority group of Cv fans.

Thats what it was that turned me off from it from the very start...

[A-Yty]

Just to clarify, I think cecil-kain's heart is in the right place and I support the idea of OA.

[Gunlord]

There is no one stop shop for sales numbers, and in a lot of cases sales numbers just don't exist publically.

I, as the head of my own video game company, have NO obligation to publicly post and or announce my sales reports. Most of the time you see sales reports from the companies themselves because companies want to brag about their success. You can guess at sales by some retailer reports, but you'll be very hard pressed to find a definitive accurate number.

Profit reports though, can be obtained by publically shared companies when they report to their investors.

Thanks, Uzo and Maehdros. About those profits reports, I'm wondering...I don't have much experience with finance, so forgive me for asking, but do profit reports describe how much money a company made overall, or do they break it down and describe how much profit was made off of each individual game/expansion/DLC/other product?