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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2013, 06:53:06 PM »
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Stoker's my-dirt-in-a-box notion has been brought up, yes. Twice, IIRC.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2013, 10:00:57 PM »
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You remember the site where I can find it? I've also seen a interview where he says that even he doesnt know the answer, but I've never seen a interview where he says otherwise. Im interested in this now :(
From Japanese DXC official guide book page 126


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IGA: I think that the person is ...... Dracula. (Laugh) He is quietly looking at the appearance from a long distance.
But, IGA isn't RoB staff. This is his speculation.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2013, 11:34:16 PM »
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I think Castlevania always had Dracula in the castle, and even more, in his throne room.
There's no official explanation, but I guess the clues lead to a Dracula who can never get out, or just doesn't want to.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2013, 11:44:19 PM »
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Stoker's my-dirt-in-a-box notion has been brought up, yes. Twice, IIRC.

Good, was feeling pretty tired and was skimming a bit, but wanted to make sure that point wasn't missed.

Don't have much else to add to the topic personally, except that I think Dracula is best when he is that fellow waiting at the end. Generally, he doesn't send out his minions because he's weak or afraid of the hero, but because the hero is beneath him. Sitting on his throne he shows his contempt for the Belmont or whichever other hunter might be foolish enough to come after him, even when they arrive he doesn't take them seriously until the fight starts to go against him, and he shows his (current) true form. Like all great and truly menacing evil doers he could get his hands dirty but chooses not to, he's a master planner, a general brooding in the shadows.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2013, 06:43:15 AM »
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Generally, he doesn't send out his minions because he's weak or afraid of the hero, but because the hero is beneath him. Sitting on his throne he shows his contempt for the Belmont or whichever other hunter might be foolish enough to come after him, even when they arrive he doesn't take them seriously until the fight starts to go against him, and he shows his (current) true form. Like all great and truly menacing evil doers he could get his hands dirty but chooses not to, he's a master planner, a general brooding in the shadows.

This. It's pretty much his magnificent bastard personality that makes him one of my favorite villains. I hope that whatever reboot happens, there will be an arrogant Dracula to throw wine glasses and look down on everyone.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2013, 07:25:06 AM »
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Don't have much else to add to the topic personally, except that I think Dracula is best when he is that fellow waiting at the end. Generally, he doesn't send out his minions because he's weak or afraid of the hero, but because the hero is beneath him. Sitting on his throne he shows his contempt for the Belmont or whichever other hunter might be foolish enough to come after him, even when they arrive he doesn't take them seriously until the fight starts to go against him, and he shows his (current) true form. Like all great and truly menacing evil doers he could get his hands dirty but chooses not to, he's a master planner, a general brooding in the shadows.
My opinion is that that modus operandi should have been present in the first 2 or 3 games, but after 10 defeats you'd think he'd change his strategy, wouldn't he? He's a master tactician after all.

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2013, 07:45:52 AM »
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But he's died so many times he hardly remembers who he used to be. After SotN, I don't think he is seen to show in reminiscing anything about his pre-Dracula life.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2013, 09:37:13 AM »
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That's because you guys KEEP trying to make the history of the game relevant. It's a game, specially on the NES days, the story was relegated to a manual. It wasn't supposed to be deep or anything like that, it was a game to be played, only. It was a cliche, the big, bad guy on the last room, always thinking that no one would touch him.

I think they never thought that Castlevania would grow that big.

Plot was always secondary in Castlevania. That's why the story isn't really that good on the old canon. And with LoS, it's even worse, they used another cliche, making the first hero the villain.

The only aspect I'm interested in Dracula is how much difficult it is to defeat him. Only the first games, COTM, Rondo (PSP) he poses somewhat of a danger... but mostly, he's really a cakewalk. I wish to fight a very hard Dracula someday...
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2013, 10:22:26 AM »
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Dracula in CV1 on NES is extremely difficult.

I agree though. I don't think Konami thought CV would become so big.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2013, 10:27:56 AM »
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That's because you guys KEEP trying to make the history of the game relevant. It's a game, specially on the NES days, the story was relegated to a manual. It wasn't supposed to be deep or anything like that, it was a game to be played, only. It was a cliche, the big, bad guy on the last room, always thinking that no one would touch him.

I think they never thought that Castlevania would grow that big.

Plot was always secondary in Castlevania. That's why the story isn't really that good on the old canon. And with LoS, it's even worse, they used another cliche, making the first hero the villain.

The only aspect I'm interested in Dracula is how much difficult it is to defeat him. Only the first games, COTM, Rondo (PSP) he poses somewhat of a danger... but mostly, he's really a cakewalk. I wish to fight a very hard Dracula someday...

Yes, we know that. But it's more fun to think of in-universe explonations to old game design restrictions. Certainly more interesting than ignoring that Big Boss is terribly ineffective as a stealthy super soldier in MG and MG2 and all the other silliness Kojima hardly needs to even handwave. Just to draw a comparison to a series that, if handled in ways other than retcon and ignoring in order to build a coherent continuity, would have a huge burden to deal with.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2013, 10:57:26 AM »
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Of course he can leave the castle.  Dracula showed up at my house last Halloween asking for candy. 

He was shorter than I was expecting. 

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2013, 12:35:32 PM »
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But, IGA isn't RoB staff. This is his speculation.

Thanks, thats the exact same interview where he says that even he doesnt know for sure, so yeah, atleast in RoB we cant have sure. IDK if in DXC its more obvious :(

Only the first games, COTM, Rondo (PSP) he poses somewhat of a danger... but mostly, he's really a cakewalk. I wish to fight a very hard Dracula someday...

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #42 on: July 30, 2013, 01:33:07 PM »
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Thanks, thats the exact same interview where he says that even he doesnt know for sure, so yeah, atleast in RoB we cant have sure. IDK if in DXC its more obvious :(

Try Castlevania: Dracula X for SNES.
That fight is extremely difficult. Unlike other Dracula battles, you are on a set of pillars. Each of which are different heights. Dracula does the same old teleport/fireball routine, but one hit (especially from the black flaming orbs) is enough to knock you off into a bottomless pit.

In my experience, the boomerang and holy water don't work well. I just find the lowest pillar and use the axe. It seems to work pretty well for a strategy.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2013, 03:38:30 PM »
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Yeah, there's that one...

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #44 on: July 30, 2013, 05:17:02 PM »
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Dracula in CV1 on NES is extremely difficult.

I agree though. I don't think Konami thought CV would become so big.
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