Topic: Lords Of Shadow: Easter eggs, Curious, Funny, Weird, Secret Stuff, Etc...

[Claimh Solais]

One of the scrolls in LoS is a knight writing about his hunger (which is implied to have killed him). He ends the note with, "The cake is not a lie." This is an obvious reference to the line from Portal, "The cake is a lie."

There is also the scroll that mentions the "Great Dekub Tree", which is a reference to the Deku Tree from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

A really obvious Easter Egg that people hated was the bandanna and Solid Eye from Metal Gear Solid being included as an "alternate costume".

There was also that scroll in Mirror of Fate that references Super Mario Bros., but I haven't played the game yet so I haven't read it. (Got MoF HD on my PS3. As soon as I have time, I'm gonna play the hell outta it. Enjoyed both demos.)

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Whenever Gabe defeated a relic holding boss, out popped a red orb that he promptly absorbed, and would get the new relic from. I'm of the mind that the red orbs are intentional nods to the orb that bosses drop in every other Castlevania. of course, only bosses that drop relics drop an orb in this one.

The Clockwork tower should be an obvious enough staple, as was well, pretty much EVERYTHING about the castle. had the library, kitchen, main hall... speaking of the main hall, it's inspired by the main hall from the first CV game. Complete with the big windows, which you can draw back the curtains from.

Speaking of the MGS references also, when you enter the pathway into the refectory, the view changes to overhead, and during your first playthrough, the MGS theme will play briefly. This is my favorite one, really. it's so out of nowhere, yet real cute.

You can use the konami code, and in doing so, in addition to the cheats, you get an 8 bit Simon from CV2 over your magic bar. dont remember which- that mimics your moves. you jump, he jumps. you attack, he does, etc.

the chainsaw attack may be based on the ability some whip wielders in the classic canon had to hold the whip out and spin it around. (let's face it, that's what we ALL do when we dangle the whip)

The Dark Crystal attack is a very obvious item crash

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This ones are on the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow`s Facebook:

Are you ready for the best saga secrets for the upcoming Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 title? Buckle up and prepare to learn more with the top 10 secrets of the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow series, straight from Producer Dave Cox.
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7.   Zobek is an amalgamation of the Dark Priest Shaf and Death from earlier Castlevania games.
8.   In Dracula Curse for the NES, if players completed the game as Trevor Belmont, during the end cut scene Trevor married Sypha Belnades. In Mirror of Fate Trevor is married to Sypha Belnades.

Was I the only one to notice that Trevor doesn't marry Sypha in the CVIII ending?

And Shaft has a T. Just saying.

[jestercolony]

In the LoS DLC (Resurrection) during one of the gameover screen's of TFO, you are given a nod to Monkey Island.

[EstebanT]

I haven't yet been able to find a complete list of references the Lords of Shadow reboot makes to the older series, the best is a crappy unfinished list in the Castlevania Wiki. I decided to make my own, Am I missing anything?

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GABRIEL BELMONT/DRACULA

-David Cox has stated multiple times Gabriel Belmont wears armor which is reminiscent of Simon's artwork and sprite from Castlevania II: Simon's Quest.
-Gabriel Belmont's in game description states he might be the son of one of the nobles of the Cronqvist family, but it has not been proven (Lament of Innocence)
-Gabriel's last name is "Belmont", the last name of the family of vampire slayers since the first Castlevania.
-In Mirror of Fate, you fight Dracula at the end of the game like in most of the previous Castlevania games. His patterns are very similar to the classic Dracula fights including teleportation, flame pillars, and flames from inside his robe/cape.
-He is the master of the castle just like previous games in the franchise.
-In the battle versus the Siege titan seen in the demo of Lords of shadow 2 he quotes the classic line "What is a man... But a miserable pile of secrets!" (Symphony of the night) 
-Before his fight with the Forgotten One, Gabriel says the classic line from Symphony of the Night: "Enough talk...! Have at you!"
-In the LOS2 Demo Dracula drinks from a goblet then throws is before doing battle (Symphony of the night)
-In the LOS2 Demo Dracula is waiting for his opponents in his throne room like previous games.
-His sons name is Alucard just like the older games.
-His Castle collapses with his defeat like other castlevanias.
-Subweapons: Holy water and silver daggers as Gabriel.

ENEMY/CHARACTER REMAKES

-Alucard/Trevor
   Subweapons/Magic: Bat Form in secret cutscene, Mist Form, Wolf Form, Wings as a double jump mechanism)   
   (Boomerang/Cross as Trevor) Both Alucard and Trevor had a Stopwatch subweapon.
   Both Alucards stories use their mothers as a motivating factor
   Alucard is based on Ayami Kojimas design in Symphony of the Night
   Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Draculas Curse)
-Zobek
   David Cox has stated Zobek is the Shaft/Death of the LOS universe, In the LOS Epilogue he is seen wearing a purple robe like
   the one Death wears. He is also the lord of the dead. Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Carmilla,
  Notable Appearances: Circle of the Moon, Simon's Quest
  (In the Japanese version of Lords of shadow, Hōko Kuwashima also voiced Shanoa in Order of Ecclesia) 
-Cornell
   Notable Appearances: (Legacy of Darkness, Judgment)
-Victor Belmont
   Notable Appearances: Resurrection (Cancelled)
-Simon Belmont
   Based on Ayami Kojimas design in Chronicles for the PS1
   Subweapons: Axe and Firebomb like the NES Castevania
   Notable Appearances: Castlevania NES, Simon's Quest,Chronicles
-Crow Witch Malphas, (Malphas/Karasuman)Notable Appearances: Symphony of the Night, Dawn of Sorrow
-The Evil Butcher, Notable Appearances: Aria of Sorrow
-Slogra (Background only), Notable Appearances: Super Castlevania 4, Symphony of the Night
-Daemon Lord, Notable Appearances: Aria of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia
  (Might be a Manticore? Notable Appearances: Aria of Sorrow, Dawn of Sorrow)
-Zombie, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Skeleton Warrior/Armored Skeleton, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Merman, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game) 
-Gargoyle, Notable Appearances: (Bloodlines, Lament of Innocence)
-Giant Bat, Notable Appearances: (Giant Bat, Rondo of Blood)
-Hunchback/Fleaman, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Harpy, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Witches, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Succubus, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Lament of Innocence)
-Possessed Armor/Animated Armor ,Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Warg, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Dawn of Sorrow)
-Giant Spider, Notable Appearances: (Dracula's Curse, Super Castlevania IV) 
-Naiad
  (Might be Dead Man's Hand? Notable Appearances: Rondo of blood)
-Cave Troll, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Order of Ecclesia)
-Swordmaster
  (Might be Vassago? Notable Appearances: Lament of Innocence, Curse of Darkness)
-Mandragora, Notable Appearances: (Aria of Sorrow, Dawn of Sorrow)
-Scarecrow, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Harmony of Dissonance)
-Gravedigger, Notable Appearances: (Order of Ecclesia)
-Dracolich Titan
   (Might be Death Dragon, Dragon Zombie or, Skull Dragon? Notable Appearances: Legends, Portrait of Ruin, Chronicles)
-Bone Pillar [Immortal,Not on bestiary] Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Puppet/Marionette, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Circle of the Moon)
-Magic Tome/Magic Book, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night, Super Castlevania IV) 
-Giant
   (Might be Balore? Notable Appearances: Aria of Sorrow, Dawn of Sorrow)
-Golem, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Executioner, Notable Appearances: (Legends, Lament of Innocence)
-Celia (Scroll), Notable Appearances: (Dawn of Sorrow)
-Laura, Notable Appearances: (Rondo of Blood, Portrait of Ruin)
-Olrox, Notable Appearances: (Symphony of the Night)
-Brauner, Notable Appearances: (Portrait of Ruin, Harmony of Despair)
-Medusa/Medusa Heads, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Walter Bernhard (Scroll), Notable Appearances: (Lament of Innocence)
-Rinaldo Gandolfi, Notable Appearances: (Lament of Innocence)
-The Abbot Dorin, Notable Appearances: (Portrait of Ruin)
-The Forgotten One, Notable Appearances: (Lament of Innocence)
-Sypha Belmont, Notable Appearances: (Dracula's Curse, Symphony of the Night)
-Michael Gelhart Schneider, Notable Appearances: (Castlevania 64)
-Necromancer, Notable Appearances: (Circle of the Moon, Order of Ecclesia)
The heads on the carousel wheel in the Toy Makers Funfair are all references to previous bosses
Medusa, Manticore (According to the Castlevania Wiki), Behemoth, and Maneater
-Grant Danasty (Scroll) His body is found in the Clock Tower same place where he joins Trevor on Draculas Curse.
-Flaming skeleton, Notable Appearances: (Almost every game)
-Iris (Scroll), Notable Appearances: (Rondo of Blood, The Dracula X Chronicles)

RANDOM REFERENCES


The Gloden Paladin in the LOS demo quotes Richter from Symphony of the Night. "Die Monster, You don't belong in this world."

The Music box in chapter 9 plays the theme Vampire Killer.

Veros Woods, and Carmilla Cementary are locations In Simon's Quest.

Wygol is also the name of a village in Order of Ecclesia.

Agharta is the name of Albus's Gun in Order of Ecclesia.

In simons story the entrance cutscene is similar to the entrance in the NES Castlevania. Draculas castle in Lords of Shadow also crumbles when Dracula is Defeated.

The Combat Cross can be used to swing in specific areas like in Super Castlevania 4. The Combos from the combat cross are also similar to the combos in Lament of Innocence as well as the buttons for area and direct attacks.
Due to Rinaldos stake attachment being made specifically for destroying vampires, it gave the Combat Cross the nickname of "Vampire Killer"

If you beat Simons story 100% you get a trophy called "Simons Quest" In Mirror of Fate HD.

You can get a "Tower Key" in Dawn of Sorrow by killing Gergoth.

"Poor, beautiful Carmilla... you will cry bloody tears before this night has ended." - Zobek

Hearts for subweapons, Pot Roast, teleporters, and a map make a comeback in Mirror of Fate

Two toys ressembling old "Death" from previous Castlevania games attack Alucard and he discovers his "Wolf Form"

Using chests to give you more subweapon space and health were also used in Order of Ecclesia.

"Waterfalls of Agharta" is a Remaster of "The Waterfalls" From Super Castlevania 4

You can hear "Ghostly Theatre" in Mirror of Fates "Theatre" if you really listen.

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one or two things:

Most of what applies to Dracul gabe, applies to Carmilla in LoS, who was the REAL throwback to Classic Dracula in the LoSverse.

Particularly the ascent to the throne room via a long set of stairs. (Surprised you missed that)

As well as Carmilla having two forms, her normal vampire form,and her giant monster form, just like Dracula in most classic games.

More musical references:

The theme "Waterfalls of Agharta" which usually plays during vertical platforming sections, (most notably the clockwork tower) is a remix of the theme "the Waterfall" from SCIV. Same for "The Courtyard". The theme that plays during the first phase of Carmilla's battle, is a remix of the original Dracula theme from CV1.

Im sure I'm forgetting another one, but there's those.

The Clockwork Tower itself, is self explanatory I think. As is Frankenstein's lab, and his creature, (though not depicted as the usual humanoid) The land of the dead, particularly the Necromancer's abyss, and that part with the gravedigger, is reminiscent of hell, or something similar, which reminds me that Dawn of Sorrow had the player go right to hell for the endgame. The Necromancers themselves, though there have been necromancers in other CV games, seem to be references to Death more than anything. The final necromancer who summons the Dracolitch,
is even assumed to BE Death, lord of the Necromancers, until we realize Zobek was the real deal.

Also, the Reapers that appear in the abyss, and the final fight, who can one shot you, are legit grim reapers in appearance and are "physical manifestations of death".

this might be stretching it, but the zombies in the abyss looked more like mummies to me.

Also, in general, Dave Cox has said a few times that SCIv served as his biggest inspiration for LoS, and places like the swamp or the ancient ruins (Agharta) are pretty quintessential SCIV stages.

The game originally started as a pitch to remake the first game. It likely would have been more of a SCIV remake than a CV1 remake.

[EstebanT]

Damn, Ive never noticed Courtyard, good ear. 
However, I do think Carmillas second form is stretching it a bit as well...

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The theme "Waterfalls of Agharta" which usually plays during vertical platforming sections, (most notably the clockwork tower) is a remix of the theme "the Waterfall" from SCIV.

Was it really? Might take a stretch of the imagination to recognize it, then. SCIV's piece is unnerving, intimidating; LoS has it brooding and contemplative. Still one of Araujo's more interesting musical endeavors, though.



In any case, here are a few obvious parallels:

Leon + Mathias = Gabriel
Sara + Elizabeth = Marie
Zead (+ Walter) = Zobek
Mathias => Satan

They probably weren't intended, though. They just show how unoriginal LoS's plot actually was.

[EstebanT]

Leon + Mathias = Gabriel
Sara + Elizabeth = Marie
Zead (+ Walter) = Zobek
Mathias => Satan

They probably weren't intended, though. They just show how unoriginal LoS's plot actually was.

Come on now, Are you serious?

"Zead resembles zobek, how unoriginal" Its a reboot. Yes, Mathias resembles Gabriel....

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GABRIEL IS DRACULA!

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Lords of Shadow's originality was never much of a problem for me. Its story is so charismatically presented that it's hard not to get engrossed in it.
But the fact of the matter remains: LoS's plot wasn't all that innovative. It was just another one of those lengthy "love --> revenge --> darkness" tales we've become so accustomed to. LoS's narrative only stands out in the way it was told.

This line, after all, had such great potential:

"What motivates a man to confront the challenges that most of us would run from? Condemning him to solitude, exposing him to defeat and death? The Answer…

But then that happened:

... is love.

Well, so much for a truly interesting story. At least Patrick's Stewart's voice made up for it. It can make up for just about anything, really.

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Was it really? Might take a stretch of the imagination to recognize it, then.

it's pretty blatant

The Waterfall: Super Castlevania 4 Music

Castlevania: LoS OST - Waterfalls of Agharta

the LoS variant simply has more atmospherics to it, and seems to be more of a peaceful, or sad, contemplative piece.

Lords of Shadow's originality was never much of a problem for me. Its story is so charismatically presented that it's hard not to get engrossed in it.
But the fact of the matter remains: LoS's plot wasn't all that innovative. It was just another one of those lengthy "love --> revenge --> darkness" tales we've become so accustomed to. LoS's narrative only stands out in the way it was told.

This line, after all, had such great potential:But then that happened:
Well, so much for a truly interesting story. At least Patrick's Stewart's voice made up for it. It can make up for just about anything, really.

>implying classicvanias weren't the same motivation

for a few Classicvanias it was
"GODDAMNIT DRACULA STOLE MY WIFE, ILL GO KICK HIS ASS AND RETRIEVE HER"

for Gabe, it's more,

"GODDAMNIT EVIL KILLED MY WIFE, ILL GO KICK IT'S ASS AND REVIVE HER"

As for Gabe = Mathias, it's also, IMO, more than just a name thing, his artwork, with the longer wavy hair, actually kinda looks like Mathias a bit, no?

They just show how unoriginal LoS's plot actually was.

Castlevania has never had original Plot. it's ALWAYS been a retread of popular vampire fiction and media.

[Maedhros]

CV4 Waterfall > LoS Waterfall though.

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It's just kinda annoying how several people over the years were adamant in saying how LoS hands down was the best story in all of Castlevania

Sure, the presentation might be leagues better than what we've got, but as for the plot itself? Nothing really special or unique about it, prunyuu~

[Flame]

Aside from ZE TWEEST at the end, it's a very standard fare Castlevania plot. More in common with LoI than it gets credit for. Which in turn was largely based on the Coppola Dracula film.

CV4 Waterfall > LoS Waterfall though.

I like them both. SCIV's is brooding, while LoS' is soothing.

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>implying classicvanias weren't the same motivation

for a few Classicvanias it was
"GODDAMNIT DRACULA STOLE MY WIFE, ILL GO KICK HIS ASS AND RETRIEVE HER"

for Gabe, it's more,

"GODDAMNIT EVIL KILLED MY WIFE, ILL GO KICK IT'S ASS AND REVIVE HER"

Yup. Couldn't have put it any better. 

Anyways, I never said that there was anything wrong with LoS's plot. I was just slightly disappointed when I found out how generic it actually was. But it was very well told, and that's all a game really needs.

Aside from ZE TWEEST at the end, it's a very standard fare Castlevania plot. More in common with LoI than it gets credit for. Which in turn was largely based on the Coppola Dracula film.

Agreed. That's more or less what I was pointing out.