Topic: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?

[machetespeghetti]

According to the japanese snes port of RoB the game is a sequel rather than a port. The game would have had to take place somewhere between RoB and Sotn. (going by maria's appearence being about the same as rondo's) probably closer to rondo. But where was shaft?

[NocturnalMango]

Doesn't Dracula X have the same story as Rondo of Blood? It can't be a sequel if it has the same story.

[machetespeghetti]

Not according to the japanese snes port.

[darkwzrd4]

It's not though. RoB was never released outside of Japan. So, everyone else got Castlevania: Dracula X/Vampire's Kiss. It takes place at the same time, but is clearly different and inferior in my opinion. RoB was only released outside of Japan as an extra in the Dracula X Chronicles for PSP.

FYI, RoB has a sequel. It's SotN.

[GuyStarwind]

I always thought it was the watered down version on RoB

[darkwzrd4]

I always thought it was the watered down version on RoB

but all the stages are different. the first stages has the same setting, but is still very different. besides, as I said, it is clearly inferior.

[Nagumo]

The game was supposed to be a port of Rondo on the SNES, but Konami got in some kind of legal trouble with the people behind the PC Engine, I believe. This forced them to change all the stages. Though not the characters apperently. 

[Inccubus]

It always seemed half finished, like something happened in the middle of production.
But, this is the first I've heard about any legal trouble seeing as Konami has always been identified as developer and publisher with no mention of any other people.

Not according to the japanese snes port.

How so?

[machetespeghetti]

I heard something about a legal issue too, you guys think they could have a game almost the same as RoB without the cutscenes and cd quality music?

[X]

I heard something about a legal issue too, you guys think they could have a game almost the same as RoB without the cutscenes and cd quality music?

I think RoB could have remained as is on the SNES, just without the CD quality music, some sounds and voiceovers. Rondo I've noticed has a simpler color palette structure then what the SNES is capable of. The cut scenes while animated are simplistic enough that the SNES can easily pull it off. But since we didn't get Rondo and instead got CV Dracula X I believe it was some sort of legal issue. But that begs the question; Konami is the one who owns the rights to CV. So how come they weren't aloud to ship Rondo as is over to the states when it's their product. But on the plus side I think some of the Rondo tracks actually sound better on the SNES. Take Vampirekiller as a real good example. In Rondo we hear the tune and then there's this pause in the music for roughly a second or two. Why? Why was that even necessary? To me it ruined the flow of the piece. At least in the SNES version the tune is not interrupted by some useless pause.

[K.G. Morder]

I think RoB could have remained as is on the SNES, just without the CD quality music, some sounds and voiceovers. Rondo I've noticed has a simpler color palette structure then what the SNES is capable of. The cut scenes while animated are simplistic enough that the SNES can easily pull it off. But since we didn't get Rondo and instead got CV Dracula X I believe it was some sort of legal issue. But that begs the question; Konami is the one who owns the rights to CV. So how come they weren't aloud to ship Rondo as is over to the states when it's their product. But on the plus side I think some of the Rondo tracks actually sound better on the SNES. Take Vampirekiller as a real good example. In Rondo we hear the tune and then there's this pause in the music for roughly a second or two. Why? Why was that even necessary? To me it ruined the flow of the piece. At least in the SNES version the tune is not interrupted by some useless pause.

yes, it's thjeir product. but there's also the PC engine folks to think about. The game may have been made to take advantage of the system, and there was probably sime kind of exclusivity deal or something. they wanted to bring it over, to a different system, and the PC engine folks most likely got upset and had some kind of legal standing in the matter. SO it was resolved by making it an entirely different game.

[machetespeghetti]

I wonder if anyone around here is talented enough to create a better port of rondo through snes coding. or if not the snes maybe the sega 32x (making good use of a bad add on) Maybe both? Hell while we are at it lets port cv4 to genisis and bloodlines to snes!

[X]

Hell while we are at it lets port cv4 to genisis and bloodlines to snes!

LoL! I don't believe that SCV4 would port very well over to the Genesis. Much of it would be lost in translation. Bloodlines on the other hand would be a more successful venture. But again there are some things about the Genesis that would be lost in translation on the SNES so it could go either way.

I wonder if anyone around here is talented enough to create a better port of rondo through snes coding.

I would love to see this done. Heck, I'd pay top dollar to see this done (successfully of course).

[Morning star]

What's been said is what i have always heard to be the truth about this. Dracula X is half port and half redesign. It is exactly the "watered down version" of ROB. I didn't know anything about the legal issues, but that makes good sense and finished the story as to why they would cut down such a great game.

In response to those who mentioned making a full port of ROB.  You better believe i would be on board.

@ X. I would also be willing to pay big coin to see it happen and own a copy. The sun would shine extra bright on that day i think.

[Bloodreign]

X: the music pausing after playing is a product of music being streamed from the disc, each time the song finishes it has to reload. Trust me Rondo isn't the only game to have this happen, I've seen it happen on PS1 and Saturn games as well.

As for which systems had RoB here in the west after it's initial release, not just the PSP, there was also the Wii VC release.