Topic: the Alucard-Lecarde connection

[Ahasverus]

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Because the Morrises while having Belmont blood (uneccessary connection) they have it by the female line (as they don't have the surname "Belmont") and they are killed by the use of the Vampire Killer. Considering they have the exact amount of genetic material than a person with the surname Belmont of their time, the basis for calling one "A true Belmont" is the surname which is gotten by having a father Belmont who has a father Belmont and so on, making only the male Belmont line to be worthy.

Unless "true Belmont" includes the child of two Belmonts but Incest was never hinted 

[DragonSlayr81]

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Ah, but you are only usuing the science of genetics as your reasoning, when it's apparent that this is more based on magic/curse. The VK isn't partial to the laws of science and the intricacy of genetics. It's a relic of magic. All it probably knows is "direct family line". It doesn't care much for offshoots or those who stray from it generations down the line. It isn't fair, but I'm not looking for CV to be the most PC of gaming series.

[beingthehero]

I like how this discussion has now swerved to BELMONT WARLORD CHROMOSOMES. CVIII's American manual should've been canon, it would have averted these types of discussions.

[Nagumo]

Because the Morrises while having Belmont blood (uneccessary connection) they have it by the female line (as they don't have the surname "Belmont") and they are killed by the use of the Vampire Killer. Considering they have the exact amount of genetic material than a person with the surname Belmont of their time, the basis for calling one "A true Belmont" is the surname which is gotten by having a father Belmont who has a father Belmont and so on, making only the male Belmont line to be worthy.

Unless "true Belmont" includes the child of two Belmonts but Incest was never hinted 

Yup, but that's only the case in the specific hereditary system you mentioned. We don't know exactly how it works so we can't draw a conclusion based on that. Then again, I could totally imagine what you're saying is what IGA has in mind, as stupid as it may be. Like X mentioned, I prefer the "eldest child" hereditary system.   

But what is a direct descendant? That's the problem, there is no such thing as a direct descendant, every descendant, first, second, female born etc have the same genes. The first born explanation is better, but that doesn't explain the whole "Vampire killer kills the non Belmonts" thing. I mean, it's ok if it hurts people with zero Belmont blood, but the Morrises supposedly have and it shouldn't hurt them.

I suppose only the direct descendants of the previous wielder of the whip are able to wield it. Perhaps when the previous owner has two children, and he passes the whip to the child who is the successor, only his descendants are able to wield it. Though it probably would still be possible for the successor to pass on the whip to a sibling. However, that would mean the descendants of that person would no longer be able to wield it. Does that make sense?   

[Ahasverus]

I suppose only the direct descendants of the previous wielder of the whip are able to wield it. Perhaps when the previous owner has two children, and he passes the whip to the child who is the successor, only his descendants are able to wield it. Though it probably would still be possible for the successor to pass on the whip to a sibling. However, that would mean the descendants of that person whould no longer be able to wield it. Does that make sense?   

Crisis averted.

Now if we could see that in the games that would be great, passing ceremony and all.

[e105beta]

I suppose only the direct descendants of the previous wielder of the whip are able to wield it. Perhaps when the previous owner has two children, and he passes the whip to the child who is the successor, only his descendants are able to wield it. Though it probably would still be possible for the successor to pass on the whip to a sibling. However, that would mean the descendants of that person whould no longer be able to wield it. Does that make sense?   

It works until return to Julius Belmont. He's nobody's direct successor, so it comes back to last names.

[Ahasverus]

It works until return to Julius Belmont. He's nobody's direct successor, so it comes back to last names.

IGA gonna IGA is the default response in these kind of threads and it's sad. You could argue that Julius is the elected heir of the VK by Johnattan and he already unlocked it at its full power, however.

[DragonSlayr81]

Crisis averted.

Now if we could see that in the games that would be great, passing ceremony and all.

This is EXACTLY what I've been wanting to see in a CV series. It's one of the reasons I wrote my story regarding the brothers and how one of them being chosen changes their relationship forever. See, there are good ideas for future CV games that don't revolve around "Dracula rises again, go out and kill him!". You CAN explore some cool things with characters that don't tread the whole plot twist puppet thing.

[e105beta]

This is EXACTLY what I've been wanting to see in a CV series. It's one of the reasons I wrote my story regarding the brothers and how one of them being chosen changes their relationship forever. See, there are good ideas for future CV games that don't revolve around "Dracula rises again, go out and kill him!". You CAN explore some cool things with characters that don't tread the whole plot twist puppet thing.

And then I learned that Circle of the Moon wasn't canon. 

[Nagumo]

Well, you would have to assume during that 200 year period that either only one child was born during a generation (still a bit of a stretch), or all the other branches of Richter descendants died out. We don't know what the Belmonts were up to, so it's hard to determine,         

[e105beta]

Well, you would have to assume during that 200 year period that either only one child was born during a generation (still a bit of a stretch), or all the other branches of Richter descendants died out. We don't know what the Belmonts were up to, so it's hard to determine,         

The easiest way to go about it would be to retcon PoR.

[Nagumo]

Yup, Bloodlines should just have been gaiden. They have been trying to justify its inclusion since 2006 and it's still unclear.   

[theplottwist]

You dudes do realize that the Vampire Killer IS a girl, right?

Might explain why it hates women (sexism thing) or why it cares only for "true Belmonts" xD

[Flame]

The easiest way to go about it would be to retcon PoR.

never realized how much por fucked with everything. especially bloodlines.

kind of makes my blood(lines) boil hpw por shits over bloodlines.

retconning it would work wonders.

[beingthehero]

or all the other branches of Richter descendants died out.

Yeah but the sideplot of OoE was finding his descendants. The old lady seemed to be his daughter, since she reminisced about fighting monsters with her father, and Shanoa almost yelled out in surprise that the lady was a true blue Belmont.