Topic: Your thoughts on CV for Vita?

[ganonfloyd]

I have zero desire to own a Vita currently. Depending on if a Castlevania was released for it, that might change, but I don't really dig the entire sort of design style (console games but portable!) for the Vita so I can't imagine it being a CV game I'd enjoy. Granted there's a chance they could make it a side scrolling PSN-esque game, but the chances of that remaining exclusive seem slim to me when a lot of other games of that ilk can be found on Steam or other hardware.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Hmm 180 u say? And I think sony has their priorities screwed up. I need updates/games/support on my PS4. All I've gotten is Warframe but they give lots of ****crickets

Indeed.
Let it be known that I think the Vita is an AWESOME little machine.  There's nothing particularly wrong with the handheld on its own.  The problems are with Sony, not with the device:

-I play handhelds in short bursts while I'm in the middle of doing other activities, so Sony's big push for "Console Gaming on the Go" isn't appealing.
-Although there is news of a price drop, the Vita is just too expensive for its own good.  On top of that, the $100 proprietary memorystick that you pretty much NEED to buy if you're going to be stocking up on many games in the future...
-Latest Cutting-Edge technology on handhelds doesn't really support the cause:  Let's look at history here.  Game Gear lost to Gameboy.  So did NEC TurboExpress.  So did Atari Lynx.  Later on, so did NeoGeo Pocket Color.  So did Sega Nomad.  So did PSP.  And so has Vita.  And the market for the high-tech gaming graphics seems to be falling towards the smartphones, the rationale being 'why buy two cutting-edge devices when one will do, and the other is a poor excuse for what I can get at home from a PS3, or get improved at home with a PS4'.  Hell, take a bluetooth connection and you can connect a controller to a phone or tablet (like I do).  Do I NEED to play Call of Duty or Battlefield or Borderlands while on the go?  Ehhh... not really.  They're also hell on the battery life.

^These are not my thoughts alone, but the thoughts of a collection of friends, colleagues, and coworkers.  I'm not saying the system isn't awesome (because it is, it truly is), but until that magic price drop happens (they should've learned from Nintendo's mistake and them owning up to it, rather than their current 'but it's totally worth it' egotistic stance on it) Vita is just... another thing.

Go to a Gamestop or a game store of any kind and look at where the stands for the Vita are.  Chances are they'll be in the back section around where the used games are.  Meanwhile the popular software lineups (which I think are 3DS and PS3 right now, but I'm not completely sure) will be right up front, possibly on one of the first walls you see.

[Intersection]

There never really was any problem with the Vita itself. Sony just isn't presenting its handheld correctly.

The Vita is a handheld machine, not a console. If you make the comparison, the Vita will always feel like a PS4-lite, because its tiny screen and cramped controls will always end up hurting console-engineered games, no matter how powerful its hardware is. The entire concept of a "portable console" is an empty one: console games, with their production values and bid for immersion, simply aren't suited for on-and-off portable gaming. So as long as Sony advertises the Vita as "console gaming on the go", and denies the handheld its own appeal, they can't expect anyone to buy it -- because then there'd simply be no reason to own a Vita over a console, and owning both would be redundant.

The Vita, just like the PSP before it, was designed to run handheld games at console quality, and not the other way around. It has great potential on its own, but as long as Sony doesn't recognize it, its library will suffer.

[son_the_vampire]

Well said Jorge!

I think that with vita being the gem that it is, they are gonna run it into an early grave. They really should consider making it more appealing to PS4 owners. I have yet to be sold on it and IMO it's like game gear vs game boy. No sense in competing with Nintendo in that aspect because they will lose.

I love CV but me forking over money to get a new handheld that doesn't draw me in like DS will be tough. I spend if I feel I can stretch the life out of something but in it's current state, vita has a long way to win that console war. So many promises that don't gives the customers but the timing always seems so off.

I'd favor the Vita more if they (Sony) would focus on their new toy more. 5 months and I'm not remotely satisfied with my 1000$ investment (all the accessories). Maybe I expect too much? Not sure really but I feel they are too comfy ATM with little competition on the gaming forefront. However, I'm a patient guy so I'm hopeful they shape up. Then maybe, I would consider getting that awesome Vita. But for now no! I want CV on my DS

[Abnormal Freak]

The entire concept of a "portable console" is an empty one: console games, with their production values and bid for immersion, simply aren't suited for on-and-off portable gaming.

Silent Hill: Origins sucked—like, truly SUCKED—on the PSP, even with headphones and the lights off to help pull me in. When I picked it up for PS2, it was a whole other experience and quite enjoyable.

I'll agree that big console-minded games shouldn't be on a handheld.

[Belmontoya]

Hey guys.

I've said before that I think people have the wrong attitude towards the vita. I'm seeing it here again.

-I play handhelds in short bursts while I'm in the middle of doing other activities, so Sony's big push for "Console Gaming on the Go" isn't appealing.
-Although there is news of a price drop, the Vita is just too expensive for its own good. 
-Latest Cutting-Edge technology on handhelds doesn't really support the cause.

I'll use Killzone Mercenary as an example here because it is a well known console game that has an exclusive vita title. Killzone mercenary is presented in short 10 to 15 minute levels. And the online matches are right around 15 minutes. The game is tailor made for short bursts of gameplay. They intentionally did that for the vita, and it works wonderfully. Console quality gaming on the go does work well when it's with a good game. The problem is that the vita went for a year without a good shooter. This put a flat tire in the buzz the vita had going for it, but now some time has passed, and the games are there. The issue is getting people interested again. The re-release and price drop should do that. It's price drop will bring it down into the range of the 3DS. It is more than worth that price.

There seems to be a general attitude that a handheld shouldn't have high quality graphics or that it doesn't need to. It almost seems like there is the idea here going around that because the vita has high quality visuals and console like controls, that it somehow can't offer anything else other than big budget console games like call of duty, uncharted, and killzone. All you really have to do is look at what is on the vita and then you realize that it's a lot of cool indie games, JRPG, and 2d platformer games as well. There is literally nothing that the 3DS can do that the vita can't do, and more (except give you a migraine while you try to sit perfectly still to enjoy the 3d graphics which usually end up a double visioned, blurry mess while your posture drifts). I'm sure most of you slide that 3d button on the side all the way down just like I did, at which point it becomes a useless feature that you paid extra money for.

So yes, the vita offers console quality games. It offers every kind of game. Because it can. The idea that it's a one trick pony is a falsity that should be put to bed.

Maybe I'm alone here, but I want a handheld that can do everything. If I want to play Gaucamelee and then switch to Uncharted, I should be able to do that. Versatility is not a bad thing! It's giving you more for your money.

The price is dropping to $180 in a matter of weeks, and the buying a vita also saves you $60 dollars because you can use it as a control on the ps4 (as I have said). So the issue of affordability should also soon be put to rest.

I will agree that the memory cards are expensive. I was frustrated with that as well. I have a 16G which I got for $40 and it stores a whole lot. This is my one complaint, and is easily the worst part about owning a vita. But it is not a big enough issue to avoid it.

Go to a Gamestop or a game store of any kind and look at where the stands for the Vita are.  Chances are they'll be in the back section around where the used games are.  Meanwhile the popular software lineups (which I think are 3DS and PS3 right now, but I'm not completely sure) will be right up front, possibly on one of the first walls you see.

At my local gamestop the vita is right next to the registers. Impossible to miss while you wait in line. At Target it's display is right up front at the game department. Last time I was there, they were sold out. I haven't had the sense that it's being brushed aside at all.

Silent Hill: Origins sucked—like, truly SUCKED—on the PSP, even with headphones and the lights off to help pull me in. When I picked it up for PS2, it was a whole other experience and quite enjoyable.

I'll agree that big console-minded games shouldn't be on a handheld.

Silent Hill is actually a fairly well received game on the PSP. But if you want to talk about a PSP game that proves the concept of current console like games on a handheld, let's talk about Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. But wait a second? Why are we talking about the PSP as a console like handheld when it didn't even have 2 analog sticks? I didn't buy a PSP because it didn't convince me. I bought a DS that time around. This is about the vita.

Hmm 180 u say? And I think sony has their priorities screwed up. I need updates/games/support on my PS4. All I've gotten is Warframe but they give lots of ****crickets

Really? You're complaining about the vita getting a price drop because the only game you have for your PS4 is Warframe which is a free to play game? Go buy a game. The PS4 is a brand new console, there is plenty of support for it. It takes time for libraries and updates to accumulate. That's a pretty twisted way to try to turn good news about the vita into something negative.

[DoctaMario]

I think the Vita is basically the PSP all over again unfortunately, thanks to Sony's shitty marketing.

PSP was one of the best consoles I've ever owned. Take into account some of the fantastic games it had, then add the CFW possibilities and there wasn't much it couldn't do. When I was on the road a lot and before i got my iPhone, I never left home without it.

I'd love to see a CV game on Vita, not because I'd buy a Vita for it, but because I'd probably be able to emulate it in the next few years and enjoy it like i enjoyed Adventure Rebirth and Judgment once I could emulate Wii.

I'd honestly like to see Konami give iOS and Android more love though. More people own those and not having to worry about physical copies of the games would save them a lot of overhead.

[Intersection]

I'll use Killzone Mercenary as an example here because it is a well known console game that has an exclusive vita title. Killzone mercenary is presented in short 10 to 15 minute levels. And the online matches are right around 15 minutes. The game is tailor made for short bursts of gameplay. They intentionally did that for the vita, and it works wonderfully. Console quality gaming on the go does work well when it's with a good game.

But that's the thing. There's nothing wrong with having Killzone playable on the Vita, but if the Vita doesn't offer anything else, I'd much rather buy a PS4 to play Shadowfall than to buy a Vita and play Mercenary, and deal with all of the handheld's limitations. The shooter genre is one that's generally more enjoyable on consoles than on handhelds, and the same goes for Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, or any of those mainstream franchise exclusives that made it to the Vita: they can definitely work on the handheld, but they simply work better on consoles.
Essentially, the Vita doesn't need as many "almost-like-console" titles -- it needs more handheld-designed titles, titles that take advantage of the Vita's portability, titles that can make good use of its close-quartered controls or its touch screen.


I already own a Vita, courtesy of a friend's generosity, but so far my library is still relatively limited, especially when you compare it to what I have on the 3DS. Among the games I own: Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward (which is so good that's it's probably worth buying the Vita for), Persona 4: Golden, Y's: Memories of Celceta, Soul Sacrifice, Tearaway, and I'm still waiting for an English localization of God Eater 2.
But if anyone knows of any other decent Vita titles, I'm open to suggestions.

[zangetsu468]

You can download SOTN, Castlevania Chronicles, and Dracula X Chronicles on the Vita.

For people who have all of those games on other consoles, there is no point buying it for the love of Castlevania.
Konami just needs to pull their finger out and give the fans something new which doesn't just feel like CV, but IS CV...Without it being a reboot a spin off, a remake (unless it's Simon's Quest) etc.