Topic: Make a remake of Legends?

[Crying Freeman]

I've been strangely into Legends lately. I used to not think too much of it, but lately I've been playing it. It's flaws SEVERELY piss me off,
1.) Re spawning enemies Ninja Gaiden style
2.) Stage 4's theme is F*CKING garbage!
3.) Easy to accidentally turn on burning mode
4.) Hard to activate burning mode sometimes
5.) Having 0 hearts when you die (the games built around using the soul weapons depending on the situation, so not having enough hearts can make you a little too weak)
6.) If you jump towards a rope and let go of the dpad slightly too early, you'll fall to your death
7.) Some overly long stages
8.) The time limit gives you JUST enough time to pass with the sub weapon found on each stage (a game with such big levels, ones that require exploration for 100% completion, seriously shouldn't have a time limit)
9.) Doesn't look horrible, but definitely not as good as B'sR

I know it's not cannon anymore, but wouldn't it be great to see a remake eliminating the problems above? Remixed music (NEED to hear an orchestral version of Legends' bloody tears), enhanced graphics (Sonia's sprite is alread ybased on SC4's Simon, just change that sprite up a bit). You could also flesh out the story further, like maybe an opening level where Dracula's attack starts, more backstory to Alucard and Sonia's relationship etc. Sounds cool to me, and there are tons of CV fan projects out there.

[Dremn]

Castlevania Legends Rebirth is something I've wanted for awhile, but after I heard the team behind Rebirth disbanded I stopped thinking such a thing was possible.

[Crying Freeman]

Castlevania Legends Rebirth is something I've wanted for awhile, but after I heard the team behind Rebirth disbanded I stopped thinking such a thing was possible.

With the game out of canon I doubt Legends would see an official remake. Plus, you have to admit The Adventure needed an update more than Legends does. Still, I wanna see Legends' potential fleshed out more outside of GB restrictions (better scale and storytelling mostly).

[Lumi Kløvstad]

I'd be down for this. It's been some time since I seriously revisited Legends, and I used to be one of those fanboys. You know the type.

That being said, I've noticed the fandom at large gradually warming to Legends, whereas originally it didn't seem like a well liked game at all. I wonder what triggered this, if anything at all.

[X]

That being said, I've noticed the fandom at large gradually warming to Legends, whereas originally it didn't seem like a well liked game at all. I wonder what triggered this, if anything at all.

God, who knows. I guess some of the fans were too disappointed with the way the series has progressed as of late. Then one of them sees Legends after all that and decides "This game's not as bad as I originally though it was."

I feel that Legends also has much untapped potential. Reworking the story just a bit so it sits more favorably in the canon's eye, remastered music, better graphics, add more stages while shortening the originals so they aren't quite as long. Have a more stronger purpose for collecting all the sub-weapon icons and not just so we can see the better ending of Legends. And definitely use the Japanese story but have it properly localized this time 'round.

Another aesthetic that I feel the game could us is:
Give Sonia a longer VK whip as it was too damned short. Even shorter then the ones from CV Adventure and Belmont's revenge. Aw heck, throw in the 8-directional whipping as well and we can get in some more creativity in the stages. Sonia already uses Simon's crouch walk so why not go all the way?

[TatteredSeraph]

I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the story for Legends, even though it's one of the ones I've not been able to play.  But I find the story interesting, with the consequences of the idea of Trevor being Sonia and Alucard's son being pretty significant.  My brain has come up with numerous ideas on what could happen should Trevor, or Julius (in particular) ever find this out.

[Crying Freeman]

God, who knows. I guess some of the fans were too disappointed with the way the series has progressed as of late. Then one of them sees Legends after all that and decides "This game's not as bad as I originally though it was."

I feel that Legends also has much untapped potential. Reworking the story just a bit so it sits more favorably in the canon's eye, remastered music, better graphics, add more stages while shortening the originals so they aren't quite as long. Have a more stronger purpose for collecting all the sub-weapon icons and not just so we can see the better ending of Legends. And definitely use the Japanese story but have it properly localized this time 'round.

Another aesthetic that I feel the game could us is:
Give Sonia a longer VK whip as it was too damned short. Even shorter then the ones from CV Adventure and Belmont's revenge. Aw heck, throw in the 8-directional whipping as well and we can get in some more creativity in the stages. Sonia already uses Simon's crouch walk so why not go all the way?

How could I forget to mention how small the ship is? That is a problem for me too, and yes, Sonia is basically the same as SC4 Simon, so we could rework that sprite and the thought of the 8 direction whipping came to my mind as well (since u have the soul weapons which operate differently instead of the sub weapons, the 8 direction whipping won't hinder their operation). And going out of your way to collect the sub weapons in the face JUST for one extra screen at the end is pretty disappointing. Maybe make the ability to play as Alucard if all are collected, and even the ability to use them, for old time sake.

BTW, how do the original Japanese story go? I didn't know Legends went through a muddy translation.

[Mystic Myotis]

Legend's story is one of my bigger pet peeves. I really don't like it.  I find it rather annoying that the only female Belmont in the series has such a garbage fan-fiction plot surrounding her.

[VladCT]

Yeah, if anyone's going to remake Legends the first order of business would be to rewrite the story from the ground up. So... Any ideas?

[Crying Freeman]

Alucard + Sonia is definitely fan fic-like. I think it could work if it was explored more, I stead of just Alucard coming in and talking about it once out of nowhere.

If I remember correctly, Sonia's major motive for killing Dracula was because the Belmont manner was attacked, killing her family members. That should be added in, more fleshed out relationship with Alucard, and maybe add Sucubus or another femmefetale to be a sort of rival to Sonia.

[X]

I managed to save a little something for this thread. Incubus brought it to the forum's attention a while back and it was the Japanese story translated;

*A
Transylvania in the Middle Ages…
One man obtained the powers of the Devil, to change this world into one of darkness, and to gain eternal life…
Not long ago, that man, who became the Demon King, used his supernatural powers and loyal followers of evil called forth from the Otherworld to spread darkness and despair across all of Europe.
…Count Dracula. The people feared the name of the Demon King, yet they could do nothing but voice their worries of a Dark Age the likes of which have never been seen.

*B
Meanwhile, a young girl with mysterious powers was born to an aristocratic family in the countryside. Surprisingly, the girl had special powers that the townspeople couldn’t understand, that they called supernatural. The girl was raised by her grandfather, who was the first to notice her strange powers, telling her, “You must not use your powers only to help yourself…” One night, when she was seventeen years old, while searching for her departed father, she met a mysterious young man named Alucard, and the wheels of fate slowly began to turn… (NOTES: There is a mistranslation. It is Alucard that looks for father. Not Sonia)

*C
However, without warning, tragedy suddenly struck. Her mansion was attacked by Count Dracula’s monstrous underlings, and upon returning to the town at the foot of the mountains, she only found her grandfather, breathing weakly. “Now is the time to make use of your powers…”  Repeating her grandfather’s last words in her heart, the young girl took up his whip and turned towards the Demon Castle.

*D
The young girl’s name is Sonia. She is the forerunner, who leaves behind to this world the name of the Belmont clan of vampire hunters.

[Crying Freeman]

Much more descriptive and much better I'd say than what we got over here. I like the idea of Sonia going out for vengeance, I used to think it was just that she wanted to help the suffering people.

If a fangame comes about, we're using all of this information. BTW, a name could be a problem, but I think incorporating the English and Japanese titles has a nice click to it- Castlevania Legends: Dark Night Prelude

[zangetsu468]

Yeah, if anyone's going to remake Legends the first order of business would be to rewrite the story from the ground up. So... Any ideas?

Maybe start with the first (chronological) and essential element tying the games together, the Vampire Killer. What happened to it between Leon and Sonia? 

Sonia comes home one night and finds her family mansion in ruins. What if Alucard had actually done this due to not being able to curb his vampiric abilities. It could make for a nice twist.

[theANdROId]

Just curious, in regards to the enemy spawning, can you use SNOT?  (the Side Nullification Obliteration Technique)

[Crying Freeman]

Maybe start with the first (chronological) and essential element tying the games together, the Vampire Killer. What happened to it between Leon and Sonia? 

Sonia comes home one night and finds her family mansion in ruins. What if Alucard had actually done this due to not being able to curb his vampiric abilities. It could make for a nice twist.

That's a really good idea! And it would make the Alucard battle better instead of the generic "I'll try to kill you, love, to test your strength!" Plus it gives Alucard another reason to fight his dad, to make up for what he did as well as for his mother.

And iwhether we want to make it canon or not, the Vampire Killer should have something in this game. Idk about you guys, but I'd prefer to leave LoI out of this, and make this an alternate take on the first Belmont battle, so your pick whether it goes Leon or Sonia. Sonia does have a strange supeehuman power, maybe that could effect the VK as well since she starts using it.