Topic: If Soma Could Absorb The Soul of a Belmont, What Type Would This Soul Be?

[theplottwist]

I actually have this long-time desire to do an animation of Dracula going berserk and attacking the village that executed Lisa, butchering every single person there and razing the place to the ground, with the final shot being him finding and holding her charred body and shedding the last of his tears amidst flames and carnage.

Just when I've almost forgotten it, something always brings it back to memory, though this time was pretty straightforward.

I wonder what was Dracula doing that he missed the big public-execution commotion happening right in the middle of the village. We know that Alucard was there, tho.

I always had this lingering suspicion that Dracula was manipulated into becoming the dark lord, and the burning of Lisa was part of the plan. It's way too convenient for Dracula to simply miss the burning of his wife at the stake. Plus, if I were Dracula, I'd keep my wife protected by at least two familiars so if shit goes down, they protect her and I can come to the rescue.

There wasn't a SINGLE Peeping Eye watching the town, nothing! Dracula, being the all-powerful teleporting vampire he is, failed to rescue her in time.

Someone conspired to turn Dracula into the Demon King, I'm telling you! 

[Dracula9]

Do it. But with Sandlers Dracula.

Please god no, lol.

The way I always had it in my head, it'd be SotN Dracula (since Kojima did do that one piece of he and Lisa together), but there'd not be a word of dialogue. The entire thing would basically be a music video for some CV song I used to have in mind but forgot a while back. I think it was Tragic Prince. Can't remember.

I wonder what was Dracula doing that he missed the big public-execution commotion happening right in the middle of the village. We know that Alucard was there, tho.

I always had this lingering suspicion that Dracula was manipulated into becoming the dark lord, and the burning of Lisa was part of the plan. It's way too convenient for Dracula to simply miss the burning of his wife at the stake. Plus, if I were Dracula, I'd keep my wife protected by at least two familiars so if shit goes down, they protect her and I can come to the rescue.

There wasn't a SINGLE Peeping Eye watching the town, nothing! Dracula, being the all-powerful teleporting vampire he is, failed to rescue her in time.

Someone conspired to turn Dracula into the Demon King, I'm telling you! 

Well, going off of your theory of Dracula still being somewhat trusting of humanity at this time (something I've also held to), it's been my idea for said animation for him to basically just be hanging out in the Castle doing whatever he did before sitting on his throne all the time, and one of said hidden guardian familiars (since they'd have to be discreet, as being seen would cause an uproar; perhaps this was a factor in Lisa's being viewed as a witch, one of her protective familiars slipped up and was spotted?) reports the situation to him.

Dracula might be super powerful, but his powers of teleportation don't seem to great as to traverse literal miles in an instant. Since turning to bats is generally his mode of fast travel, he'd still have to fly that distance in realtime.

Once realizing what was happening, he'd dismiss all of his servants, so as to handle the situation himself.

After all, what good is vengeance if you don't deliver the finishing blows yourself?

[zangetsu468]

I wonder what was Dracula doing that he missed the big public-execution commotion happening right in the middle of the village. We know that Alucard was there, tho.

I always had this lingering suspicion that Dracula was manipulated into becoming the dark lord, and the burning of Lisa was part of the plan. It's way too convenient for Dracula to simply miss the burning of his wife at the stake.

All of a sudden, Dracula Unleashed becomes part of people's head canon.. (*waits for slow clap*)

In all seriousness, Dracula wages his war on humanity in 1476. Although it is unclear exactly when, Lisa dies shortly before this, be it days, months, or a short number years.

If this 'Dracula' really did take the throne of Wallachia at some point, is it any coincidence that the real figure of Vlad 3 just happened to die supposedly between late 1476 - early 1477? This is exactly why I believe if we assume Vlad III (in the CV universe) dies in 1476, Dracula uses Vlad's death to his advantage and claims the throne at this time, assumes the name Vlad (as per SOTN's manual) and "Tepes" as his last name. This spawns the historical resurrection myth of "Dracula". Because Alucard is still alive, he also assumes his father's last name Tepes. This is also why SOTN's manual does not refer to any such figure known as "Lisa Tepes". With the throne in hand, Dracula starts massacring the people who murdered his wife, as well as fighting wars with the Ottoman empire.

Where was he when Lisa died? Probably practicing dark magic or turning/ killing as many vampires as he could to build up his power. If there was no Vlad III, historically, then I would assume he had still assumed the throne somehow and was fighting wars and leading his army as a king and a tactician (as he previously did) when Lisa was murdered. 

[Nagumo]

I like to think of Dracula as what happens to Soma in the bad ending of Dawn.

He had the potential to become the Dark Lord, but wouldn't do it. He'd walk in the edge of becoming evil incarnate, but not do it for the little bit of humanity that still existed inside him - humanity that led him to open his heart for Lisa.

But just as Lisa is killed, Dracula loses his shit and climbs that last little step that was keeping him from becoming the Dark Lord. Just like Soma does upon witnessing "Mina" die by Celia's hand.

I actually found something that ties into this pretty nicely. In the "Encyclopedia of Castlevania", it says Dracula became a vampire because of wife's death, he then met Lisa, etc. Then it says: "Once more [Dracula] regained his human heart".  Also note Alucard has also been said to have a human heart. It then says Lisa died due to the witch trails, and Dracula becomes the Dark Lord who starts his war on humanity. So I interpret this to say Dracula actually became or was becoming a good guy again because of his love for Lisa. In a sense, it seems like it's going to be a redemption story for Dracula, but then everything goes to hell. I like that story dynamic.

[zangetsu468]

I actually found something that ties into this pretty nicely. In the "Encyclopedia of Castlevania", it says Dracula became a vampire because of wife's death, he then met Lisa, etc. Then it says: "Once more [Dracula] regained his human heart".

Isn't it strange that Brauner also became a Vampire due to his daughters' deaths, albeit under different circumstances.

Also note Alucard has also been said to have a human heart. It then says Lisa died due to the witch trails, and Dracula becomes the Dark Lord who starts his war on humanity. So I interpret this to say Dracula actually became or was becoming a good guy again because of his love for Lisa. In a sense, it seems like it's going to be a redemption story for Dracula

So he may have stopped cursing God for a while then. Since LOI's premise of Mathias' vampirism was to live and curse God eternally, maybe he stopped all of that when he and Lisa met. This would also explain why Lisa wasn't so freaked out by all of his vampiric and occult activities. Maybe he toned it right down or stopped altogether for her. Sotn's manual does mention that "for some reason he [Dracula] has chosen not to take away her [Lisa's] human form".

but then everything goes to hell. I like that story dynamic.

Reminding me of Berserk a lot. Love it.

[Shiroi Koumori]

I'll end up getting a sum of money to pay you and Shiroi to translate everything from A to Z in these games. I really do not understand why in freaking hell these localization teams keep getting these details wrong or adding unecessary flourishes to them. Changing this ONE line in english changed the whole idea.

The localization team seem to never respect the true intention of the creators when it comes to Castlevania, after all.

I would gladly translate if there's money involved. 
I know how game translation works. They give out an excel spreadsheet of data (these are just data dumps and most likely not arranged in order) and the translator has to translate from there (no need for prior knowledge of whatever you're translating). You know how things could go very wrong with that method.

[Nagumo]

I wonder what was Dracula doing that he missed the big public-execution commotion happening right in the middle of the village. We know that Alucard was there, tho.

I found the answer to this, too. Dracula's profile on the Japanese CoD website mentions the accident happen during the middle of the day, during which Dracula's power is diminished. Presumably, the fact that he couldn't go out in the sunglight also played a part in it. 

[Donvermicelli]

I found the answer to this, too. Dracula's profile on the Japanese CoD website mentions the accident happen during the middle of the day, during which Dracula's power is diminished. Presumably, the fact that he couldn't go out in the sunglight also played a part in it.

Without any prior knowledge of this page I did always assume the events described to be the case. It would not have made any sense otherwise. It is however interesting to note that Alucard is not affected by sunlight like his father is.

[theplottwist]

I found the answer to this, too. Dracula's profile on the Japanese CoD website mentions the accident happen during the middle of the day, during which Dracula's power is diminished. Presumably, the fact that he couldn't go out in the sunglight also played a part in it.

Yep. Much more obvious than I expected. I forgot Dracula couldn't pull off his "covering the sun" shenanigans back then.

[Dracula9]

Without any prior knowledge of this page I did always assume the events described to be the case. It would not have made any sense otherwise. It is however interesting to note that Alucard is not affected by sunlight like his father is.

It's a pretty common thing for dhampirs to have some measure of sunlight immunity. Usually they're either able to walk in it freely without consequence, or it just takes a lot longer for it to wear on them, at which point they just get really worn out rather than catch fire.