Topic: General Mega Man Discussion Thread

[Laughing skeleton]

I'm in the classic gaming camp myself, still reeling from finding out recently that Serges' lines from X2 implied an identity with Wily.  The bad translation almost makes it more exciting finding out years after harboring the incomplete picture.  Although I'm sure the new age games have provided some explanation for this, an old timer like me wonders of the possibilities if you restrict yourself to just the SNES gameworlds.  For instance what if Wily, instead of avoiding an inevitable death, could have engineered himself to be immortal but chose deliberately to become a robot?

Jorge's discussion on modular hardware and software has me intrigued also, I think programming languages have some application in understanding some aspects of the MegamanX world although I'm not sure exactly how yet.

[Flame]

Well, we know from an interview with Inafune, that Wily was "brought back" by the virus.

However, we have NO idea HOW that happened, or WHY.

[X]

Maybe the virus had evolved to the point of regenerating dead cellular matter at the atomic level? Sounds like Star Trek's 'Genesis wave' (even though that's not a virus).

[VladCT]

Perhaps he's not really "brought back" in the literal sense?

[Flame]

6) What happened to Dr. Wily in Rockman X series? Are Dr. Wily and Dr. Weil the same person? Were they ever supposed to be?

KI: A large amount of time has passed between the classic series and Mega Man X. Dr. Wily had died in the interim but was brought back by the virus. Dr. Wily and Weil are not the same person. It is ironic though, because Dr. Wily created Zero, and Dr. Weil used Zero, but ultimately it was a copy of Zero's original body with a different mind that defeated him.

Wily's consciousness somehow was brought back by the virus. From there, he has been Serges, and has been Isoc. never outright stated mind you- But just short of slapped in our face.

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Serges was able to not only rebuild Zero when it was considered impossible, but upgrade him to boot, with specifications only Wily himself should know, having shown them to Bass in Power Fighters. AND add a saber in case he ever lost Buster functionaity

Cain himself tried and failed, to rebuild Zero despite being the leading scientific authority of the era. Zero was unanalyzable, and thus could not have a new body built.

He also is the only character in Rockman X2 to refer to X as "Rockman X" and refer to him as a "robotic memento of Right's." and express regret at his defeat by him.

He also looks like Wily. And Sigma suddenly knows Zero is the last of the Wily numbers.

fast forward to X6. after Sigma having talked of a mysterious old man in X5, we get a mysterious old reploid. Who shares Wily's voice actor from Rockman 8. And ALSO looks like Wily. And by the character designer's own admission, he was inspired by "a certain scientist". He also shows intense obsession with Zero, and claims to have seen him prior to the events of X6. He is obsessed with finding him, and is able to completely immobilize Zero within a timed protective forcefeild with a wave of his hand, while calling him "boy" and claiming to know him "inside out". When Zero defeats High Max- one of the results of Gate's study on Zero's DNA, He shows utter glee. Unable to keep himself from laughing. When  X does so- he instead shows pure rage.

And lets not forget his mysterious erasure after Gate's defeat, along with the disembodied voice egging Zero on.

[VladCT]

Wow, the implication is so strong that it's almost an irrefutable fact. *Raises Flame Shield*

[KaZudra]

...Instead we get a Transvestite Juno who.... gives the new reploids free will like X.... BUT IS EVIL DUN DUN DUN!
could have brought Serges back for in depth character development but instead give Axl a playmate...
and we wonder WHY there is no x9?

[Flame]

Wow, the implication is so strong that it's almost an irrefutable fact. *Raises Flame Shield*

Lets not forget- Serges Japanese profile in the manual says he is a "super genius!" with "intellect comparable to the legendary mad scientist"

The game itself compares his intellect to Wily.

...Instead we get a Transvestite Juno who.... gives the new reploids free will like X.... BUT IS EVIL DUN DUN DUN!
could have brought Serges back for in depth character development but instead give Axl a playmate...
and we wonder WHY there is no x9?

Lumine do=idnt give reploids free will, they already had that. New generation reploids are simply a different kind of maverick. Rather than being berserk or made mad by the virus and controlled by it- they are instead Sigma's equals and share his philosophy

[Flame]

interesting article you should all read.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/08/14/editorial-mega-man-must-reach-for-a-new-paradigm/

Also, there's an article on why the prototype was going to cost 2$
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/08/16/why-was-capcom-going-to-charge-for-the-mega-man-legends-3-prototype-version/

[Inccubus]

I already read both of those. I had no idea Nintendo were being such fart-knockers. No wonder they have a bad rep among 3rd-party developers. I totally agree with the other article.

[Successor The Cruel]

I stopped playing Mega Man X games at X5, because they got terrible and the idea of a virus is pretty dumb. The whole story is stupid, and to go from the animated scenes of X4 to that comic book stuff was very disappointing.

The whole thing was a shame (except for Dynamo's theme), because Mega Man X4 is the bomb. Like, one of the top best Mega Man games, ever! How can you go from something so awesome to a steady progression of lame games!?

[ScionOfBalance]

Never liked the idea of the virus either.But i played it for the story anyways.

[Flame]

I stopped playing Mega Man X games at X5, because they got terrible and the idea of a virus is pretty dumb.

The Virus has been around since X1. Sigma states his consciousness survived his death. Wireframe Sigma In X2 was his virus form. The virus was being transmitted over the world from the central computer. In X3, Doppler actually REVEALED the fact in game to the characters, and you get chased by the Sigma virus after defeating Kaiser Sigma

to go from the animated scenes of X4 to that comic book stuff was very disappointing.

I liked those too, but the still scenes are beautifully drawn too.

The whole thing was a shame (except for Dynamo's theme), because Mega Man X4 is the bomb. Like, one of the top best Mega Man games, ever! How can you go from something so awesome to a steady progression of lame games!?

X6 is one of the BEST X series games in terms of story.

Now, what dont you like about X5+? Dont just mindlessly bash them without giving a reason.

that said, D-Arts Zero has been released in Japan!

http://www.toyarena.com/images/66611-darts-zero-1.jpg

it comes out in the US in September

[crisis]

I stopped playing Mega Man X games at X5, because they got terrible and the idea of a virus is pretty dumb. The whole story is stupid, and to go from the animated scenes of X4 to that comic book stuff was very disappointing.

I can agree with this, X4 was definitely the high point in the series for me. When I first seen the screenshots in EGM I knew it was a must-buy.

X5 was good cuz it tried to wrap up the overall story. X6 wasn't really necessary and felt rushed, they added all these different viruses for some reason (maverick, nightmare, sigma, zero, seriously wtf), Axl wasn't necessary, etc. Maybe if the Zero series wasn't created and added all this new backstory it wouldn't be so muddled, but now we're left wondering about the Elf Wars and X&Zero absolutely MUST defeat Omega with the Final Strike technique & send him to space only cuz preconceived canon dictates and if they try do something different it automatically contradicts some sourcebook, etc. Ya know? It's a lot to swallow, and I can see how some people are put off by all this.

[Munchy]

While the Zero games do nothing to help the overall plot, to me they're by far the most consistently quality and awesome sub-series of Mega Man games.