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Which 3D game did you enjoy the least?

Castlevania 64
Legacy of Darkness
Lament of Innocence
Curse of Darkness
Castlevania Judgment
Lords of Shadow
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2011, 07:46:34 AM »
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El Shaddai is what a 3d castlevania should be like... too bad they never did it like that...
El Shaddai has gotten mediocre reviews, that's NOT how a 3D Castlevania should be like. I'm pretty pleased with LoS 85 at Metacritic.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2011, 07:51:42 AM »
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I think that these days you've got to dig deeper if you're gonna base your opinion on reviews.


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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2011, 08:54:45 AM »
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Lords. Every 3D installment in this series has its share of mechanical problems, so it comes down to the aesthetic and the like. Lords' is one of the least engaging art directions I've ever seen in a video game. It's so joyless in its tiresome exposition, too, like the developers really believed they'd crafted something of worth and didn't want humour to distract from it. Except when it invokes mindbogglingly asinine Internet meme references for comic relief, I suppose. The tone of the game is all fucked, is what I'm saying. It does practically nothing well, aside from pumping out some high-poly vistas often enough.

Judgment's probably just as bad for what it is, but hell if I played it.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2011, 09:49:58 AM »
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I haven't played Curse of Darkness or Lament of Innocence, but I was pretty displeased with Legacy of Darkness. It was way too much like Castlevania 64 to for me to really enjoy it :S
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2011, 10:45:33 AM »
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Apparently, Lords of Shadow failed to top CV64/LoD and LoI.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2011, 12:07:24 PM »
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It's understood that most of the CV fanbase is unhappy about something or the other, but it should be realized that this franchise has never been huge and to think that Konami is still managing to spit out new CV games is pretty crazy. At this point you might as well take what you can get 3D or 2D and just make the best of it. Enjoy it for what it was things are never going to go back to "CV3 Dracula's Curse" or anything classic of that nature.
I am agree that "eternal ranting" is bad, however if you look at the other longtime fandoms it's all the same. Seems some of the long time fans already have they own ideas how the games should and don't accept anything that goes against they vision. Bad for them.

As for the poll - I didn't play some of those games, but I liked CV64 and LOI. Both of them have shortcomings (LOI have more of them in terms of gameplay), but in general they were enjoyable games. As for the LOD, while I didn't liked it, it's so similar to CV64, that if I will vote for it, it will like if I vote against CV64 too.
Sadly I've nver played COD, since I am really interested what my opinion about this game could be. I hated backtracking and samey rooms in LOI, so I'd believe COD won't be an enjoyable experience for me.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2011, 02:48:00 PM »
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Apparently, Lords of Shadow failed to top CV64/LoD and LoI.


Seriously.. what?

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 02:52:53 PM »
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Judgement was terrible. As a CV game it failed to have anything from CV that wasn't mangled by character art and/or sloppy, thoughtless characterization. It's controls sucked, and wasn't much more than a glorified Smash Bros with none of the nostalgic value. It just isn't a good game.
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #38 on: August 30, 2011, 04:58:39 PM »
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N64 games.
I didnt enjoy them at all. CoD was damn slow and so on, but the n64 ones...enuff said
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #39 on: August 30, 2011, 05:12:13 PM »
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El Shaddai has gotten mediocre reviews, that's NOT how a 3D Castlevania should be like. I'm pretty pleased with LoS 85 at Metacritic.

Because reviews are always good ways to determine how worthy a game is, amirite?

Oh wait, God Hand IGN review.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #40 on: August 30, 2011, 06:31:27 PM »
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El Shaddai has gotten mediocre reviews, that's NOT how a 3D Castlevania should be like. I'm pretty pleased with LoS 85 at Metacritic.

You taking about the same guys who pretty much get paid to make good revies for shitty games to give into the hype?

El Shaddai was fucking Awesome, only problem was that the graphics clashed with the mapping at times.

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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #41 on: August 30, 2011, 07:03:50 PM »
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LoS. I'd say more, but Puwexil put it perfectly enough. It just doesn't feel right. It's an exploitation and nothing more.

Then again, Curse of Darkness is much the same way. To me, Hector doesn't carry the image of a CV hero, and it's so hard to care about the characters overall, except for Trevor, because, well, he's Trevor.
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2011, 07:53:21 PM »
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Lords of Shadow. I admit that several of the other 3D Castlevania games suck (most of them, really), but Lords of Shadow, Castlevania or not, is just something I don't and can't support at all. Kinda' like how I can't support drunk driving. Lords just crosses a line that none of the others do. Lords of Shadow is the only one on the list I'd call a complete travesty and an embarrassment not worthy of its title, and an offense to the series and its fans (though, I recognize not all fans view it as such).
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2011, 08:30:42 PM »
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Seriously.. what?

Based on the poll result, LoS seems to get more hate than CV64/LoD and LoI. Look at it, dude.
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Re: The biggest 3D FAIL.
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2011, 08:41:44 PM »
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Lords of Shadow. I admit that several of the other 3D Castlevania games suck (most of them, really), but Lords of Shadow, Castlevania or not, is just something I don't and can't support at all. Kinda' like how I can't support drunk driving. Lords just crosses a line that none of the others do. Lords of Shadow is the only one on the list I'd call a complete travesty and an embarrassment not worthy of its title, and an offense to the series and its fans (though, I recognize not all fans view it as such).

I think Crisis put it best when he said the best way to approach LoS is as if it were Castlevania: The Game of the Movie. It helps me appreciate it much more as a retelling that has only the very base elements of Castlevania (guy with whip, anachronistic jumble of environments, creatures from random mythologies). Which isn't to say that it's completely flawless (QTEs, wall-shimmying, and Titans suck, not to mention the game was way too bright to be called Lords of SHADOW), but I don't think it was a train wreck or anything. I hope the sequel emphasizes the horror aspect of it much more.

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