Topic: The biggest 3D FAIL.

[KaZudra]

CV 64/LoD was THE 3D CV that sadly could have been but was not in the end Konami just fell over and over again but it feels like LoS is going somewhat in a right direction(even if some people do not like it).

Los2 should have the puzzle and platforming of Cv64 and Keep Everything else, it would be perfect then!

[The Silverlord]

Apparently, Lords of Shadow failed to top CV64/LoD and LoI.

Not bad at all!  I mean, it isn't strictly/technically/aesthetically a Castlevania game, so to be where it is isn’t too bad.  I mean, it could quite easily have been omitted from this poll in the first place / isn’t really worthy against any other 3D Castlevania game.

Ahem.  I vote Lament of Innocence!  I'm nostalgic when it comes to Castlevania N64 cos it had bags of mood so I can't vote for it (haven't played Judge/Curse).  Although, all the credit in the world to Yamane for one of the greatest soundtracks in gaming history.

[GuyStarwind]

To be honest I thought the 64 games were going to get more hate. I'm glad they're not though. IMO they're some of the most Castlelyvania games out there.

[uzo]

Maybe it was so bad that it didn't make uzo's list. It could be just below the [WORST] section I wager.

Hahaha. Seriously though;

I didn't include it because it's really apples and oranges. Just for the sake of argument though, if Judgement had a mode like LoI/CoD where you explored areas and combated enemy monsters, it would have ranked higher than both LoI and CoD I think. Just based on pure fighting mechanics, Judgement really stands above LoI and CoD both. It still has shit designs though. I could almost kick it below CoD for having shitty designs.

But alas, it is not in the list because I feel there is no way to properly compare it to the other games, being it isn't quite in the same genre.

[Neobelmont]

Los2 should have the puzzle and platforming of Cv64 and Keep Everything else, it would be perfect then!

Music as well and I really like the music, but it is that they teased just us a bit at points just hear this it should have been in LoS


Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin   Freaking incredible. If all of this is met I have a bit of faith that THE CV could be made it is just taking small steps.

[KaZudra]

Music as well and I really like the music, but it is that they teased just us a bit at points just hear this it should have been in LoS


Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin   Freaking incredible. If all of this is met I have a bit of faith that THE CV could be made it is just taking small steps.

that is AMAZING! that's what LoS should have done, have the epic yet familiar sound

[Munchy]

I dunno... it's an interesting take, but I'd take a more atmospheric feel over an epic feel.

Something tells me Forest of Monsters would make an amazing chill house song.

[Ahasverus]

Music as well and I really like the music, but it is that they teased just us a bit at points just hear this it should have been in LoS


Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin   Freaking incredible. If all of this is met I have a bit of faith that THE CV could be made it is just taking small steps.

So.. perfect? 

[Gambit Belmont]

CV64 or CoD.  Not sure.  But I casted 64 in the vote since I haven't played Curse.  Although Curse has an awesome soundtrack

[Puwexil]

It's kind of stunning how awful that Forest of Monsters remix is, all wrapped in delusions of self-importance and empty notions of 'epic' by means of tepid orchestra. Truly a perfect match for Lords.

[KaZudra]

It's kind of stunning how awful that Forest of Monsters remix is, all wrapped in delusions of self-importance and empty notions of 'epic' by means of tepid orchestra. Truly a perfect match for Lords.

Just because its orchestrated an changes tempo with an atmospheric tone makes it awful?
Wow, you must have a shitty taste in music.

[Puwexil]

Thanks!

Note I called the orchestra here tepid, the implication being that I have nothing against such an approach when it's done well. Here it's just like Lords, overbearing and loud, trying to generate a feeling of progression by a continuous string and violin movement. I find it cliché and lacking, devoid of atmosphere unlike the source material, which offered room to breathe and was more subtle in its manipulations.

It's possibly a cut above most of the things in Lords, but as admitted, definitely carved from the same tree, and thus very distasteful to my shitty music tastes.

[KaZudra]

Thanks!

Note I called the orchestra here tepid, the implication being that I have nothing against such an approach when it's done well. Here it's just like Lords, overbearing and loud, trying to generate a feeling of progression by a continuous string and violin movement. I find it cliché and lacking, devoid of atmosphere unlike the source material, which offered room to breathe and was more subtle in its manipulations.

It's possibly a cut above most of the things in Lords, but as admitted, definitely carved from the same tree, and thus very distasteful to my shitty music tastes.

I'm sorry, Its not your music taste, Its just you have a grundge ahainst LoS and anything that resembles it remotely.

[Puwexil]

I don't like Lords, but what of it? That remix was brought up as something that should've been heard in the game, and this topic is about the negative aspects of Castlevania's 3D installments, Lords among them. It's only natural I'd comment on a song tailored to be akin to Araujo's compositions, which I'm no fan of in the least. And in the end that is what the topic is about: talking about things we don't enjoy. Grumble.

[Mystic Myotis]

I'm a bit surprised at the Curse of Darkness hate, but whatever.  I enjoyed it despite its flaws.

Castlevania: Judgment is the clear winner for me.  I haven't played the 64 games so I can't comment on them.