Topic: Demon Castle War -What about the Morris Clan?

[cecil-kain]

I'd also personally put in modern war clips rather then use ones from WWII. That was something that kinda bugged me about the first trailer.

Agreed.

I actually have 3 people developing their own video concepts independently as part of the creative process.  When all 3 are finished, the plan is to review their work to see what everyone brings to the table.  At that point, if someone's work is miles ahead --I'll probably put that person in charge of the video's production --with the other 2 providing additional support.  When a consensus is reached about the concept, I'll write the script, and try to bring additional artists on board to help the producer realize their vision to the fullest.  Meanwhile, I have Claimh Solais scouting for the voice talent.

[Jago]

Here's my thoughts:

I think the Obi-Wan idea could be good, let's say Jonathon gets wiser and more mature in his older years.  Or if he died early, maybe Charlotte is still around and gives the whip and teaches Julius some magic as well.

I also like the playable character idea, it could be Jonathon's son or grandson.  He wouldn't use the Vampire Killer whip, but could still use other whips since they trained in that style, and other things like swords spears and kunais of course.

Maybe Jonathon could even be the new whip's memory, and you have to defeat him to get the Vampire Killer.

[K.G. Morder]

The Whip's memory doesnt work that way.

It remembers the last BELMONT to use the whip. ANd Julius wouldnt need to do that either.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

The Whip's memory doesnt work that way.

It remembers the last BELMONT to use the whip. ANd Julius wouldnt need to do that either.

What he said ^^^

Belmonts actually get the whip with no strings or rituals attached.

While none belmonts like the Morris clan have to not only fight a uber powerful vampire killer, they also can not use the whip to much after unlocking its true power or they will die as explained in POR.

[Reinhart77]

a Morris must defeat the last Belmont found in the Whip's Memory, but that doesn't mean that the whip only remembers the last Belmont, does it?  and i'm not talking about trying to defeat the whip's memory.  it's more of a personal interaction with it.  i think of the Greatest Five attack as being an extension of the Whip's Memory of five warriors.  well, that's my take on it anyways, it could be wrong.  or maybe Greatest Five is actually summoning the Belmonts Spirits instead?  Albus was able to exist for a limited time in our world through the power of the whip.  Maybe Belmonts' souls will not rest until Dracula is defeated for good, and thus reside in the whip?  but i'll just put a speculation disclaimer on all the above statements.  all that aside, i would definitely like to have the feeling that all the past Belmonts are involved in the battle somehow, even if it's just cheering Julius on from heaven as he prepares to strike the final blow.

[K.G. Morder]

PoR says that the whip has a memory of the last male Belmont to use it. Because the whip is intimately tied with the Belmonts- the Founding Belmont's fiance is at it's core after all. A willing vampire sacrifice between a vampire and a Belmont, both of whom trusted each other completely. That allows the whip special power against vampires. But I imagine due to the specific circumstances of it's creation, only a Belmont is truly "trusted" by the whip. anyone else has to defeat the memory of the previous Belmont to use it to "gain it's trust and full power"

The Greatest 5 attack refers to the Greatest 5 Belmonts. Leon, Trevor, Simon, Juste, and Richter.

[KaZudra]

and to add by studying patterns,
using Canon-only logic, I've come up with these conclusions



The Vampire Killer's Power can only be trusted to a male of Belmont decent, the amount of decent depends on need of ritual (example, Morris did, but Rienhardt didn't)
Granted that the Spirit of the whip is a female, it kinda makes sense, plus male Belmont brobaly only inherit the supernatural strength and abilities.

The Belnades clan and decent is the reverse, only Females inherit the magical abilities, with the exception of Juste being the only Belmont to inherit both Belmont and Belnades traits.
Unlike the Belmonts, Belnades Power doesn't seem to weaken as the dencent blood deludes (Charolette being REALLY Strong with magic)

the Lecarde Clan, I presume being decedent from Renards (Maria side) seem to have both males and females inherit the powers of their ancestors.
Their true Origin is yet to be known

[cecil-kain]

Here's my thoughts:

I think the Obi-Wan idea could be good, let's say Jonathon gets wiser and more mature in his older years.  Or if he died early, maybe Charlotte is still around and gives the whip and teaches Julius some magic as well.

I also like the playable character idea, it could be Jonathon's son or grandson.  He wouldn't use the Vampire Killer whip, but could still use other whips since they trained in that style, and other things like swords spears and kunais of course.

Maybe Jonathon could even be the new whip's memory, and you have to defeat him to get the Vampire Killer.

If Morris were to be playable, I'd like to see him wielding the Alucard spear --which Eric bequeathed to Jonathan...

[Reinhart77]

that could be cool.  i think the need for the spear would have disappeared after the whip returned to the Belmont clan, but it could still work.  poor Stella though, maybe she would've inherited it if her father hadn't lost hope about her becoming human again.  maybe Jonathan gave it back to her?

[K.G. Morder]

Why would a Morris use the lecarde spear? it was made for Lecarde use. Rather- the Alucard Spear was made for Ricardo use. the Morrises are only stand in Belmonts. They are meant to use the Vampire Killer until it is time to give it to the next Belmont heir for 99. Considering Eric had daughters, they can use the spear, or pass it on to one of their children.

Speaking of which, id love to see a Lecarde descendant in the battle of 99, using the spear.

[darkwzrd4]

and to add by studying patterns,
using Canon-only logic, I've come up with these conclusions



The Vampire Killer's Power can only be trusted to a male of Belmont decent, the amount of decent depends on need of ritual (example, Morris did, but Rienhardt didn't)
Granted that the Spirit of the whip is a female, it kinda makes sense, plus male Belmont brobaly only inherit the supernatural strength and abilities.

The Belnades clan and decent is the reverse, only Females inherit the magical abilities, with the exception of Juste being the only Belmont to inherit both Belmont and Belnades traits.
Unlike the Belmonts, Belnades Power doesn't seem to weaken as the dencent blood deludes (Charolette being REALLY Strong with magic)

the Lecarde Clan, I presume being decedent from Renards (Maria side) seem to have both males and females inherit the powers of their ancestors.
Their true Origin is yet to be known

I don't think that Charlotte is a Belnades.  At least, there is nothing that says she is.  She is just Jonathon's partner and friend.

[X]

I don't think that Charlotte is a Belnades.  At least, there is nothing that says she is.  She is just Jonathon's partner and friend.

I have to agree since I've yet to see any evidence linking her to the Belnades family. If anything Charlotte is nothing more then a local sorceress whom gained a popular reputation across the country via her magical abilities.

[Koutei]

Nintendo Power Issue #204 (June 2006)
According to Koji Igarashi, Charlotte's family is somehow related to the Fernandez (Belnades) Clan.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_Aulin

What somehow related?

[X]

Nintendo Power Issue #204 (June 2006)
According to Koji Igarashi, Charlotte's family is somehow related to the Fernandez (Belnades) Clan.

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Charlotte_Aulin

What somehow related?

Yeah they're being extremely vague on that one. On a side-thought wile reading the wiki page, I didn't like what they mentioned about Grant having feelings for Sypha. Another love triangle? Really guys?? Come on! That s**t's been done to death and makes for poor story-telling too. Grant would have no time for feelings towards her due to his even stronger feelings of revenge against Dracula. Yeah as you can guess I despise love triangles  Anyways; Charlotte being a relative of the Belnades clan...I don't think so. Not with such a lack of evidence to even attempt to back up IGA's claim.

[Chernabogue]

I think Jonathan (wiser and not killed by the VK) and Charlotte (who COULD be the mother/grand-mother of the Belnades 1999 descendant) would play a role in the DCW. Jon would give the whip to Julius, the last Belmont, and then, with Charlotte, they could totally be mentors, like Wind, and let people like Alucard, Julius and others fight Dracula and his army. (Blockbuster-style :p)