Topic: The worst idea Castlevania's ever actually had?

[Nagumo]

But none of the other things you mentioned are anime cliches.

[thernz]

soma is a legal adult with super powers

In most of the world, including most of the United States, parts of the United Kingdom (England, Northern Ireland, Wales), India and China, the legal adult age is 18 (historically 21) for most purposes, with some notable exceptions:
The United Kingdom: Scotland (16)
British Columbia, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador, Northwest Territories, Nova Scotia, Nunavut, Yukon Territory in Canada; Nebraska and Alabama in The United States, and South Korea (19)
Indonesia and Japan (20)

o-oh.

[Sumac]

But none of the other things you mentioned are anime cliches.

Not by themselves. But together they form a picture of the generic anime storyline.

[Flame]

I dont see people complaining about Malus like this. Soma is practically the same thing as Malus. A Reincarnation of Dracula. (although the first one since the timeline conveniently leaves CV64 out)

Ill bet if it was set in Eastern Europe, and had the exact same elements, (Set in Romania instead of japan, the church seals it away instead of a Shinto priest, Soma and Mina are European instead of Japanese, etc etc.) you wouldn't be complaining.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Ill bet if it was set in Eastern Europe, and had the exact same elements, (Set in Romania instead of japan, the church seals it away instead of a Shinto priest, Soma and Mina are European instead of Japanese, etc etc.) you wouldn't be complaining.

I probably would, because Castlevania should not be an anime.

Up until Aria, you had maybe a few Japanese weapons show up, and a few suits of armor, but that's hardly a connection to be made.

Suddenly, HEY WHOA WE'RE SET IN JAPAN NOW! And it stars a Japanese high school student who is the reincarnation/descendant of the Devil King/Dracula! And his girlfriend's family is implied to have sealed said Devil King/Dracula! And Alucard has become "mysterious man in a suit"! Also, you have Julius, the "grizzled old mentor" character, Yoko, the "wise priest" archetype, Hammer, the "lovable softie", and Graham, the "Affably Evil" antagonist.

Yep. TOTALLY NOT AN ANIME.

*cue earlier points from this side of argument*

[crisis]

I probably would, because Castlevania should not be an anime.

What's wrong with Vampire Hunter D?

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Aside from the thematic similarities and the fact that a vampire hunter uses a whip in one movie, Vampire Hunter D is quite different from Castlevania.

The world is entirely different, and it uses its own trope subset.

[Charlotte-nyo:3]

If I recall, in the English translation, Soma was changed to a foreign exchange student studying in Japan to avoid some of the very comments ITT. But still they come! 

[GummiCandyful]

I think it's funny how Yoko, the descendant of the Romanian Belnades clan has a Japanese name. Maybe her parents moved to Japan and just gave it to her? Also, since Soma is Japanese, how did he end up with a Spanish last name?

[crisis]

Aside from the thematic similarities and the fact that a vampire hunter uses a whip in one movie, Vampire Hunter D is quite different from Castlevania.

The world is entirely different, and it uses its own trope subset.

A Castlevania anime that took a similar approach would be awesome, right?

[xscientist5000]

Anime style characters (handheld games)

Bad writing (LOI, LOS, Judgement)

Bad story (AOS, LOI, DOS, POR, Judgement)

It'd be simpler to answer whats been done right lately.

[PFG9000]

I dont see people complaining about Malus like this. Soma is practically the same thing as Malus. A Reincarnation of Dracula. (although the first one since the timeline conveniently leaves CV64 out)

Ill bet if it was set in Eastern Europe, and had the exact same elements, (Set in Romania instead of japan, the church seals it away instead of a Shinto priest, Soma and Mina are European instead of Japanese, etc etc.) you wouldn't be complaining.

Yeah, we would.  We're Castlevania fans.  We'll complain about anything.

Really though, Malus and Soma are totally different.  Malus was just a disguise.  Soma is an entirely new person, totally without the evil agenda of Dracula, and he has the power to withhold Dracula's true influence if he chooses.

Of course, I haven't spent any real time with the N64 CVs in some nine years, so I may have forgotten some stuff.

[Charlotte-nyo:3]

Eh, I dunno, with Malus it may be that he has dual personalities, a mostly latent background Dracula personality that can emerge and the more outward faux personality that can be overcome when the latent personality comes out. That's generally how I saw it just from playing through the game, but it's hard to know for sure without any inside info.

[thernz]

do we hate soma because he's the reincarnation of dracula and we don't like reincarnation
or is it just because he's japanese, which doesn't really change anything

he is also ryo asuka from devilman

[Sumac]

If I recall, in the English translation, Soma was changed to a foreign exchange student studying in Japan to avoid some of the very comments ITT. But still they come! 

But still japanese canon is the main canon.

or is it just because he's japanese, which doesn't really change anything

Actually it does.
Or rather it doesn't make sense. Like the whole deal with japanese priests and solar eclipse.

Soma is practically the same thing as Malus.

Nope.
Malus, as far as I understood, is in "Dracula mode" more or less constantly. He is the same old Dracula, but in the new body. And there is no complicated story about castle being sealed e.t.c.