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« Reply #90 on: July 15, 2012, 11:26:47 PM »
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That's what they did in SotN too. Minus the crushed heart.

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« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2012, 02:33:01 AM »
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I think any sort of sacrifice that is of an inhuman, negative nature can bring about Dracula's resurrection. They've shown and talked about several different ways to do it throughout the series. In essence; if said person or persons intend to bring about Dracula in any way they choose then it will happen.
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« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2012, 02:38:22 AM »
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Something I would personally like to see is how Mathias grew to where he was before Castlevania 3. They kinda just tell you what happened after Lament of Innocence, but that's not really enough for me. One more go with Leon would make me pretty happy. I do wonder if Dracula can just resurrect without the sacrifice though. They never really said whether he could or not.

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2012, 09:26:01 AM »
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He definitely needs a sacrifice to resurrect. Dracula always needs someone to bring him back. He can't do it himself. 

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« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2012, 02:29:29 PM »
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In some of the original games Dracula hasn't needed a sacrifice to resurrect. Although I've never read the instruction manuals for some of the games I'm quite sure that even if there is no sacrifice Dracula can still resurrect due to the hundred year cycle. When a hundred years is up Dracula comes back with or without help. He can only be entombed for so long before somethings gives way.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2012, 02:34:33 PM »
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In some of the original games Dracula hasn't needed a sacrifice to resurrect. Although I've never read the instruction manuals for some of the games I'm quite sure that even if there is no sacrifice Dracula can still resurrect due to the hundred year cycle. When a hundred years is up Dracula comes back with or without help. He can only be entombed for so long before somethings gives way.

I was always under the impression that during the original games that Death was the one that had to resurrect him.

Maybe in the other games Death was not at full power (for whatever reason) to resurrect Dracula and needed help from people like Shaft,Carmilla,or Bartley.


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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #96 on: July 16, 2012, 02:39:27 PM »
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I personally feel that a sacrifice is only necessary to resurrect Dracula prematurely, but is not needed after a full century.
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« Reply #97 on: July 16, 2012, 03:12:43 PM »
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I personally feel that a sacrifice is only necessary to resurrect Dracula prematurely, but is not needed after a full century.
Seconded. Either that or a sudden, massive influx of strife and chaos (i.e. the World Wars).
It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #98 on: July 16, 2012, 03:40:00 PM »
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In some of the original games Dracula hasn't needed a sacrifice to resurrect. Although I've never read the instruction manuals for some of the games I'm quite sure that even if there is no sacrifice Dracula can still resurrect due to the hundred year cycle. When a hundred years is up Dracula comes back with or without help. He can only be entombed for so long before somethings gives way.

Well, when taking at look at the manuals of the classic games, ignoring the games where Dracula prematurely resurrects and origin stories, it's always mentioned in the Japanese manuals that Dracula is brought back by his followers with a black mass ritual. The only exception where they don't mention this is in Haunted Castle's story, where they only mention Dracula is back after a hundred years, but it doesn't imply he got revived all by himself either.   

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #99 on: July 16, 2012, 08:29:30 PM »
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Keep in mind, we've also had Dracula resurrected in the form of Malus by Gilles de Raise and Actrise. They've never explicitly stated that Dracula was able to do it himself or if it was required. Maybe they could clear that up a bit. I prefer they do it with the ORIGINAL timeline rather than the LoS timeline.

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2012, 10:30:50 PM »
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Vampire Killer's manual stated that Dracula was resurrected through a dark ceremony.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/vkill/documents/CVVKJ.txt

So it's been around since the series' very beginning.

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« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2012, 10:34:24 PM »
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Then where does the 100-year cycle come in? Wait... I just remembered the Crimson Stone.

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2012, 10:37:31 AM »
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The idea is that every 100 years, "the power of Christ" weakens and the minds of the people are overtaken by an evil influence. Because of that, they desire Dracula's return to the world and resurrect him.       

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Re: Plots that can still be used in IGA's timeline
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2012, 01:29:41 PM »
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Seconded. Either that or a sudden, massive influx of strife and chaos (i.e. the World Wars).
Woudnt that technically count as sacrifice, considering the massive losses of life? if someone were to utilize or channel the deaths in such a way as to count them as sacrifices?
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« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2012, 02:20:50 PM »
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Woudnt that technically count as sacrifice, considering the massive losses of life? if someone were to utilize or channel the deaths in such a way as to count them as sacrifices?
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It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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