Topic: Will the old timeline be used again ?

[beingthehero]

http://castlevania.armster.org/draculax/artbook02.jpg - blonde hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/CVX68K/simon.jpg - red head hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/HoD/wnc-just.jpg - white head hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/Aria/somaevil.jpg- white head hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/LoI/LamentOfInnocence-Leon.jpg - blonde hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/CoD/hector.jpg - grey head hero

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Images/Scans/DXC/robchron-richter.jpg - brown head hero

Pattern: Ayami Kojima hates people with black hair.

When did I say it was "too light"? I was just pointing out that during Iga/Kojima's tenure there weren't really any main protagonists with dark (or at the very least naturally colored, poor Simon) hair.

Saying "oh, but Alucard's actually blonde" is a pretty weak argument. It's an extremely light blonde.

Have we even had any dark-headed heroes?

I mean, Simon, Sonia, and Christopher were blonde, Trevor, Richter, and John brown-haired, and Nathan Graves white-hair. Everything seems on par for the course post 2001.

[Maedhros]

You are nitpicking at a fucking hair color.

[Beaumont_Belmont]

Yeah. It's just one of those things you do when you don't have a life. It's a nitpick, but it's one of those little things that bug me, amplified by really hating Simon's redesign in Chronicles. I don't care that Simon doesn't have a consistent hair color, but I can damn well tell you it ain't Kool-Aid red.

Now where are my pizza rolls.

[beingthehero]

Man, I love his Chronicles redesign. ;_;

Though, we actually had a pretty interesting topic on his look a couple years ago.



He was initially designed by Kojima as adhering very close to his original look before his radically-designed blue-outfit white hair look before settling on his final appearance.

I also forgot that Shanoa was indeed a raven-beauty, so we've had at least one black-haired hero.

What a fair way to end a debate - we've all ended up as friends.

[Beaumont_Belmont]

I don't think Shanoa was designed by Kojima though, was she?

Anyway, I grew up with Simon Belmont, and I grew up with the 80's-styled badass Simon. Chronicles in-game renders his hair as pink. For me, Simon is always going to be the buff barbarian from parts unknown.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Alucard is obviously blond, or if you want to be anal, Platinum Blond.

But his hair definitely is not pure white like Juste and Soma's for example.

Seems people just like to find things to shit on IGA and his team about if you ask me.

"Oh looks, copy paste here and there, they all have white hair! the guy is just a laze fest, those Bishonen characters in IGA games just rub me the wrong way etc "

The list could go on.

Pattern: Ayami Kojima hates people with black hair.

Well...Genya Arikado

But to be fair, he was just disguising that lovely blond hair and look of his.

[Lelygax]

Hey, I know a char that had black hair with Kojima design (had as in "someday had" lol), try to nitpick about hair with this char now.

[A-Yty]

Alucard is obviously blond, or if you want to be anal, Platinum Blond.

[Shiroi Koumori]

Pattern: Ayami Kojima hates people with black hair.

She created blacked haired characters for other projects. I think they were novels.

Well...Genya Arikado

But to be fair, he was just disguising that lovely blond hair and look of his.

He is still a looker.
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Anyway, we are done with the hair talk. Please return to topic. 

[olrox2]

Some elements in Lords of Shadow seem to refer to Lament of Innocence(or are they mere easter eggs/tributes)?

For example, Both Gabriel and Leon lost their wives, and Gabriel and Mathias Cronqvist also share this tragedy.
In Bernhardt Castle, the dlc boss reminded me of that Boss you could find in LOi, you know, that chained monster.

I Wonder if this is just fan service or if this could be use to make a kind of cross-over with stories of parallel dimensions.
And Rinaldo Gandolfie lost his daughter in both games, so yes, maybe with a bit of work Lords of Shadow timeline could be merged.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Yea, because obviously that is the alucard we have been talking about here...

[A-Yty]

We're not all talking about the same character?

[Beaumont_Belmont]

It's the same character interpreted in VERY different ways.

[Intersection]

Some elements in Lords of Shadow seem to refer to Lament of Innocence(or are they mere easter eggs/tributes)?

For example, Both Gabriel and Leon lost their wives, and Gabriel and Mathias Cronqvist also share this tragedy.
In Bernhardt Castle, the dlc boss reminded me of that Boss you could find in LOi, you know, that chained monster.

I Wonder if this is just fan service or if this could be use to make a kind of cross-over with stories of parallel dimensions.
And Rinaldo Gandolfie lost his daughter in both games, so yes, maybe with a bit of work Lords of Shadow timeline could be merged.

I strongly doubt this is a form of fan service. Rather, it goes to show how uninspired LoS's plot was.
If you haven't noticed:

Gabriel <-> Leon
Gabriel/Dracula <-> Mathias
Zobek <-> Zead

So much for its originality. But I love LoS's story anyhow.

I Wonder if this is just fan service or if this could be use to make a kind of cross-over with stories of parallel dimensions.
And Rinaldo Gandolfie lost his daughter in both games, so yes, maybe with a bit of work Lords of Shadow timeline could be merged.

LoS's "fan service" was ridiculous. Instead of setting an interesting parallel for LoS with Castlevania's lore, Cox chose to arbitrarily throw disjointed names and references into the game. It feel like a poor patching-up effort rather than a something long-time fans could truly enjoy. Need an example? Imagine a blood-crazed vampire general that ended up being called "Brauner". No, he doesn't paint; no, he didn't lose his daughters. He just swings at you with his gory sword.
And Gandolfi? He's consistently alluded to in the LoS, while his game was the very title MercurySteam needed to erase to set LoS. But instead Cox fished him out to make him the Easter bunny for weapon upgrades. And why he bothers to make and hide them is, of course, very poorly explained.
I liked Lords of Shadow; but I'd have liked it better if Cox gave up trying to allude to a heritage he manifestly doesn't want to live up to.

I Wonder if this is just fan service or if this could be use to make a kind of cross-over with stories of parallel dimensions.
And Rinaldo Gandolfie lost his daughter in both games, so yes, maybe with a bit of work Lords of Shadow timeline could be merged.

LoS was never intended as a "parallel dimension" to LoI, nor will it ever become one. It's a separate timeline. So you can safely forget about any crossovers.
And you can definitely put aside the idea of merging the timelines. The LoS saga has written over the stories of so many of the original Castlevania's that putting both together would be impossible. Here's a list of the games that couldn't work with LoS:
CVI, CVII, CVIII (!!!), SCIV, CA, CAII, Chronicles, SoTN, C64, LoD, AoS, DoS, LoI, CoD. And if you extend the logic, you could add PoR and OoE to the list. So that's not an option.

[Beaumont_Belmont]

In response to Intersection; was it just me or did it seem like the Castlevania elements in LoS were basically an afterthought? I mean, if you changed the character names it could have just been "Lords of Shadow" and it could have passed for a wholly unrelated game.

Therein lies my biggest issue with LoS- it's not the iffy platforming or the crappy camera or the interminable colossus battles- it's the fact that the Castlevania window dressing felt like it was applied in the cutting room at the last minute. It's like they were just going through the script and replacing . "Oh, we got this Werewolf guy- hey, let's call him Cornell!"