Topic: Why the Belmonts were unable to use the Vampire Killer after Richter.

[Kamirine]

yeah, so far every non-belmont in one way or another fought a freshly resurrected dracula, who was outside of his 100 year cycle, so most likely he was severely weakened.

imagine, if all those outsiders who didn't have the power to slay everything related to the darkness (created by infusing a soul of someone dear to the wielder tainted by the darkness into the weapon) like hector, alucard or the morrises had that much trouble fighting drac who was probably at less than 5% of his full power, they'd be totally wiped out were they fight him at full power.

this alone could indicate that only the real belmonts are capable of fighting drac when he's in his top form, and the others can only hope to beat him when he's not.

And apparently, even the Belmonts need help when he's at 100%, full strength. Or at least, that's what I can gather from Castlevania 3 and apparently now the 1999 battle, whenever that is.

[Long John Silver]

yeah, those two were exceptional though, being the first battle against dracula who's been amassing his powers for almost 400 years, and the second an attempt to seal him away instead of just beating up to a pulp.

[DragonSlayr81]

Cv3 not rondo.

Dracula's Curse IS IGA's favorite, but RoB is ONE of IGA's favorites. Er, at least in his top three. IGA said CV3, RoB and CV1 were his top faves out of the series.

And regarding non-Belmonts vanquishing Dracula, from the non-Belmonts we have, I wouldn't take them too lightly. It's not like they are random people. I recall hearing that Hector's dark powers originate from Dracula himself, hence only a Devil Forgemaster is fitting for a vessle to Dracula. That being said, Hector was considered the superior vessle, Issac the inferior. Out of desperation Isaac was used when Hector shook off the darkness that overcame him. I would think that would be a world of difference. Dracula was brought back through an INFERIOR vessle, which I'd think only made it easier for Hector to defeat him. Perhaps of Hector was used as the vessle, Dracula would be more stronger(so strong that only Trevor could match him in strength).

Also, Alucard, the other non-Belmont hero. He's the son of Dracula. I'd think he'd prove to be strong enough to take on his father.

Who else, the Morris clan? They're Belmont related. Perhaps IGA made them less powerful than the main Belmont line, but they still have enough power to wield the VK whip, even if it drains their life. I wouldn't think any normal person, at the least, could do that. The VK would probably drain their life in an instant.

And we still don't know WHO Shanoa really is. When a designer makes it a point that she has a codename, her true name is vital to the plot.

[A n t r a x x]

Cv3 not rondo.

I said one of them. He has stated Rondo is one of his faves; that's why he was upset when he couldn't bring it over all those years.

Considering all the effort (lol) that's been used in trying to keep both Rondo and SOTN's look over the years (mostly through reused sprites) I just really doubt he has any real disliking for Richter's first quest or it's main character.

Just a freakin shame that Richter has to be the Belmont to screw it all up for the family all of a sudden. I'd rather it be Juste (useless bastard)

[Long John Silver]

or maybe he reuses the rondo sprites because they're the best quality out of all the cv game sprites?

[Long John Silver]

Who else, the Morris clan? They're Belmont related. Perhaps IGA made them less powerful than the main Belmont line, but they still have enough power to wield the VK whip, even if it drains their life. I wouldn't think any normal person, at the least, could do that. The VK would probably drain their life in an instant.

a normal person would simply not be able to get it to work. the whip was still connected to the bloodline through sara's spirit that was inside it. to someone completely ouside of the family it'd be most likely just a normal whip.

they had to use cheats such as spells to be able to use the whip, and for a cost since they had to use their own life force as the whip's power source.

that's why i consider them weaker than the real belmonts, other thing being that they escaped the duty and had no exposure to the whip for few hundreds of years. they weren't able to use the whip's real power, but emulate it through their own lifeforce, that's why each use of it drained it from them.

[Gunlord]

Maybe the Belmonts are trapped in another dimension or something? ;;;;

[The Last Belmont]

 

And how do you not see that he treats Richter like crap?

because he's in so many games maybe? If he hated richter he wouldn't give him so many cameos. And richter is the coolest one in my opinion because he's the most human.

And if that's not enough, he had Trevor get stabbed, doesn't even inform us on what happened to him, and turned Dracula into a Japanese teenager named Soma. He's a schmuck and his storytelling sucks.

Um trevor getting stabbed was a cheap shot when he was distracted, the belmonts are human beings not gods who just have superhuman powers, that doesn't mean they are invincible and having him get stabbed has a dual meaning that I haven't seen mentioned yet, it proves Trevor's toughness and strong will when he recovers from the wound which judging from where he was stabbed would have probably killed most people, but he just shakes it off. Iga may have left the ending of Cod the way it was on purpose for a reason. And about the brainwashing thing, Christophers son was brainwashed back in the old gameboy games and that was even before Iga came on board. I don't always agree with everything iga does but I think he is trying to do what's best for the series. The trapping castlevania in an eclipse thing was cool and it's not really fair to judge soma until the 1999 game comes out and we know more.

When did Richter become such a pussy? That is definitely weak storytelling. You'd think Maria would be there for him and keep him under control. Unless Richter goes the way of world fame and wanders the planet from bar to bar sleeping with ho-bags and downspiraling into inescapable depression.

We don't know why he left or the circumstances yet, calling him a pussy is premature. Also just to get this out there I don't see why people look down on him for shaft brainwashing him, we don't know the circumstances behind that either and the belmonts are only human maybe richter really is evil and just gives into his dark desires in SoTn and OOE?  This could have something to do with why the belmonts are unable to control the whip for so long if it's true.

[ChibiMaddiChan]

We don't know why he left or the circumstances yet, calling him a pussy is premature. Also just to get this out there I don't see why people look down on him for shaft brainwashing him, we don't know the circumstances behind that either and the belmonts are only human maybe richter really is evil and just gives into his dark desires in SoTn and OOE?  This could have something to do with why the belmonts are unable to control the whip for so long if it's true.

Now that be an interesting twist...a Belmont and a well liked one at that, turns evil on his own and gives into the darkness.  Oh, I can hear the bitching now.  :

I hope this games answers the question though (I don't see why it wouldn't) since I'm curious to know what happened to the Belmonts and such.

[crisis]

In Reply To #54
Atleast the bitching would be warranted, though. It'd be like Alucard all of a sudden turning evil (which would be lame despite what anybody says).

[Gunlord]

Please forgive my ignorance, but didn't Alucard start off evil in CV3? You had to beat him before he joined you or something? :O

[crisis]

I thought he was just "testing your power" or something like that

[A n t r a x x]

I thought he was just "testing your power" or something like that

YUP.

[CVfan13]

I always thought he was possessed but Serio and Jorge and Clara nad some other people all proved me wrong. 

[Inccubus]

From the dialogue in SotN it's safe to say Richter was under Shaft's control, not brainwashed.

On another note, Soma Cruz is a foreign exchange student. He isn't Japanese, and judging from his surname he's, at least partially, of Hispanic descent.

If the Belmont's are indeed 'extinct' in OoE like has been reported, rather than being some sort of mistranslation, then I hope the game explains why. Since Julius is a Belmont it stands to reason that his bloodline can't go 'extinct'.