Topic: General Mega Man Discussion Thread

[Munchy]

The American ZXA was fucking ruined by the awful voices. I would have rather had no voices at all than what they did. So unbelievably bad.

[KaZudra]

The American ZXA was fucking ruined by the awful voices. I would have rather had no voices at all than what they did. So unbelievably bad.

Strongly Agreed, the game was very good, but overall hurt by bad voice actors

[Inccubus]

You know, looking at the classic series there are a couple of robot masters whose names don't really make much sense.

1)Crashman/Clashman - neither one really makes sense. I mean it's pretty clear from his design that he's an explosives robot like Bombman. A crash is when one object rams another object. That would have been a good name or Chargeman even, but it isn't really Crashman's main style of attack. A clash is a fight or a battle. That makes no sense since all of Wily's robot are designed for combat.

New name proposal(s): Blastman

2)Waveman - this one isn't as solid, but it always made me think more of a surfer style robot than the one we got.

New name proposal(s): Hydroman, Tritonman, Geyserman (based on what his main weapon should do like the shit-ton of steam geysers in his stage)

3)Centaurman - I have no problem with his/her name. For those who are confused, in the manga by Hitoshi Ariga he depicted Centaurman as female. Anyway, my thing with him/her in MM6 is his special weapon. How does being a Centaur equate to time stopping abilities? The version of him/her from the Power Fighters where he uses an energy bow makes a hell of a lot more sense even if it is a more mundane weapon.

4)Slashman - too generic. Would better fit sword wielding robot, rather than the wild design he has.

New name proposal(s): Beastman

5)Shademan - really? Vampires need more than just shade. This decidedly "Count Orlock" looking robot needs something a little more sinister sounding for a name. Unfortunately all the obvious choices have been taken at this point in the series. No Shadowman, or Darkman. Bummer.

New name proposal(s):Duskman, Nightman, Batman (Why not? MM8 has an Aquaman. What? You'll rip off Marvel, but not DC?)

6)Hornetman - this is the one that first got me thinking about all this. OK, here's the scoop on him. He was originally going to be one of 2 female robot masters in MM9. They decided to give her a sex change when they decided to only have one chick. Now, my main problem with his name is that he isn't a hornet. his upper body is formed out of a hive for cripes sake.

New name proposal(s):Hiveman

7)Commandoman - this one is obvious too, I think. He's a freakin' tank!

New name proposal(s):Tankman

And thinking back on it...

8)Needleman - doesn't really use needles. He uses spikes, which are much more effective.

New name proposal(s):Spikeman

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I don't think they use Blastman because of "Sonic Blastman".
Hydroman is already used, I believe.
At least Slashman slashes with his claws.  Would Clawman work?  Sure, but it wouldn't be as cool a name.
And Beastman is already in comics, I think.  Also, it's a character in F-Zero games so there might be friction there.
I think Night Man is one of the boss robots in Wily's Castle, though DuskMan would've been cool.

[Flame]

Hydroman is already used, I believe.
I think Night Man is one of the boss robots in Wily's Castle, though DuskMan would've been cool.

neither of those are used.

I think Crashman's name is supposed to be an onomatopoeia type name. like, the sound effect of his bombs exploding or something.

One of my favorite RM's is Burnerman. he's just cool.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

ok

[Inccubus]

neither of those are used.

I think Crashman's name is supposed to be an onomatopoeia type name. like, the sound effect of his bombs exploding or something.

One of my favorite RM's is Burnerman. he's just cool.

That's interesting about CRASH!man. Makes slightly more sense that way. Still the sound of an explosion is a blast, not a crash. I take Clashman as an early translation error otherwise that one is simply nonsensical from any point of view. I like Blastman more and more each time I picture Crashman's image.

Burnerman is my favorite fire-bot! I love the insane personality they gave him. I can see all the other rm's giving him a wide berth over at Wily HQ. Psychopath. LOL.
I forgot to go through the rm's in MM&B for my list. Oops! But, then I don't really have a problem with any of their names. Groundman is kinda meh, but not really as nonsensical as some of the ones I mentioned.

EDIT: I did want to address Fakeman from MM9. But just his concept is freaking stupid. His a counterfeit cop robot. That's... lame. They could have at least had him change into other fake forms to make him more interesting and challenging. As is he's really just... Polizeiman.
Like that? How I played off Pickelman being in German? LOL. I crack me up. ^___^ ... ... ~_~ ... ... What?

@Jorge: Copyrights be damned, I say!! I still see an Aquaman in my MM8. Yeah, I'm lookin' at you, tubby! You and your shiney glass tank. I'll get you! *shake fist*



EDIT AGAIN:

You know which sub-set of RMs seems like a long list of "Shoot we should have saved that name for this guy!"
The ice RMs.
Iceman -"Alright! He uses ice, so call him iceman."
Blizzardman -"Skiiers have to deal with blizzards, right? Give him a snow weapon and call it a day!"
Freezeman -"Damn. He's covered in ice. Should have saved iceman for him. Oh well. He's Frozen so use freezeman."
Frostman -"This one's covered in packed snow. No problem, frostman!"
Coldman -"Damnit! He's a freezer! Should have kept freezeman. Well, he's also like a ridge, so coldman. Yes I know the descriptionsays he was made to freeze things. Shut up!"
Chillman -"So he uses water that turns into ice? So like he glazes things? You know what!? Forget it. I'm done! Just call him chillman or something. I'm out. Peace."

So let's see what my hind-sight choices would be.
List 1, Logical:
Iceman -> Arcticman
Freezeman -> Iceman
Frostman -> no change.
Coldman -> Freezeman
Chillman -> Glazeman

List 2, Preserve iconic past:
Iceman -> no change.
Freezeman -> Arcticman
Frostman -> no change.
Coldman -> Freezeman
Chillman -> Glazeman

I have a list of pokemon that should have had different names too. =P

[Inccubus]

I demand a game featuring these RMs:

Bondman
Dynaman -> Blitzman (He throws bombs, like the kind you drop from a plane. Only Megaman uses dynamite.)
Sonicman
Voltman
Bitman -> Particleman (LOL)
Sharkman
Torchman
Waveman ->Plashman (Yes it's a word, look it up. Or change the other Waveman to Geyserman and keep this one as is.)

[crisis]

ok

Did Wily build Zero first or did Light build X first? We see a glimpse of Zero first in the classic series... and his design reflects his X2 look. So why did Wily seal him with his X1 look?

[Inccubus]

I think it's safe to say that Zero was in the design phase before X was.

[KaZudra]

Did Wily build Zero first or did Light build X first? We see a glimpse of Zero first in the classic series... and his design reflects his X2 look. So why did Wily seal him with his X1 look?

maybe his X2 look was original intention but was limited to technology so made him x1

[Inccubus]

delete.

[X]

Did Wily build Zero first or did Light build X first? We see a glimpse of Zero first in the classic series... and his design reflects his X2 look. So why did Wily seal him with his X1 look?

Zero's design didn't change until X3. He was destroyed in the first game and resurrected at the end of the second, But still looked the same. I believe Light built X sometime after Wily built Zero as it is near the end of his life when he sealed X inside of the capsule. I could be wrong though. X may have been built first, sealed up then Wily builds Zero afterwards. Who knows.

[KaZudra]

Zero's design didn't change until X3. He was destroyed in the first game and resurrected at the end of the second, But still looked the same. I believe Light built X sometime after Wily built Zero as it is near the end of his life when he sealed X inside of the capsule. I could be wrong though. X may have been built first, sealed up then Wily builds Zero afterwards. Who knows.

It Changed in X2.

See Zero with Buster and No Shoulder pats, and no "boobs"

See Zero with Current Desighn a la X2

[Flame]

Inccubus, you are reading WAY too into the names.

Did Wily build Zero first or did Light build X first? We see a glimpse of Zero first in the classic series... and his design reflects his X2 look. So why did Wily seal him with his X1 look?

I think it's safe to say that Zero was in the design phase before X was.

We dont know that. the same game that has Wily showing his Zero concept to Bass also has Light talking about robots needing to be able to make their own decisions regarding right and wrong when Wily manages to trap Rock in a moral paradox.  (basically: My robots are evil, but you destroy them therefore you are no better) Needing his friends to remind him that what he does is right.

We dont know if Light was already designing X or what.

We DO know, that Zero was originally planned to be Wily's masterpiece, built from the mistakes he learned from Bass' creation, which would help him defeat Rock and Bass once and for all, and help him take over the world.

But when he awakened Zero, he had a flaw in his cognitive program which made him overly violent and unwilling to obey commands, and so Wily had to seal him away.

However, at some point he became aware of Light's own magnum opus in creation, and instead Zero's mission instead became solely one. To kill X.

As to his design, with his concept reflecting the X2 design, (without the saber however, mind you) and yet his final design being so different, I couldn't say.

Now before anyone brings up the buster similarity between Zero and X's armor, consider this. The story seems to follow the route where Zero gives X his buster parts. But there also has to be a capsule version of the same enhancement. They couldnt just make two sets of busters. So they just kept the same one I guess.

also, X1 Zero had booblights. it was his sprite that forgot them for some reason.