Topic: The biggest 3D FAIL.

[Vampire Killer]

Lords. Every 3D installment in this series has its share of mechanical problems, so it comes down to the aesthetic and the like. Lords' is one of the least engaging art directions I've ever seen in a video game. It's so joyless in its tiresome exposition, too, like the developers really believed they'd crafted something of worth and didn't want humour to distract from it. Except when it invokes mindbogglingly asinine Internet meme references for comic relief, I suppose. The tone of the game is all fucked, is what I'm saying. It does practically nothing well, aside from pumping out some high-poly vistas often enough.

Aaaaaaand....it's opinions like this that make me glad that Konami stopped listening to the "fanbase".

Am i the only one here who is starting to wonder if Puwexil is just a troll? Dude seems to simply hate on everything.  Seriously Puwexil, go take some prozac or get a blowjob or something.



In other news, CoD for me is hands down the worst 3D Cv. Good gravy that game was awful is almost every respect. It's only saving grace was Trevor and some of the music.

Compared to CoD, LoI is fairly good. Heck, even LoD beats CoD.

[Munchy]

I'm a bit surprised at the Curse of Darkness hate, but whatever.  I enjoyed it despite its flaws.

Castlevania: Judgment is the clear winner for me.  I haven't played the 64 games so I can't comment on them.

I did have some fun with the Innocent Devils and the weapon creation stuff. The endless hallways that seem to mock Hector with his pathetic jogging speed were too much, though.

I'd love a "rom hack" of that game that just gives the rooms more vertical depth.

[Puwexil]

Am i the only one here who is starting to wonder if Puwexil is just a troll? Dude seems to simply hate on everything.  Seriously Puwexil, go take some prozac or get a blowjob or something.

What's wrong with due criticism? Can't handle the heat? And I'm sorry, but me procuring medication or sexual favours isn't going to make this franchise look any better than it has for many years now. Which is, an embarrassment to itself, its history and its peers. So in hopes of Castlevania bettering itself, I'm going to keep pointing out every single hideous flaw and misguided design decision, whilst championing the aspects that are, you know, good. Too bad the latter sort is in short supply these days.

Let's just hate in peace.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

The problem is, what YOU think is 'good' is not necessarily factual, but rather your opinion of it.
Which translates to "I'm going to be a dick because my opinion is better than yours, and I'm going to ridicule and insult everyone who disagrees with my bile statements for the lolz".

So yeah, you may not be trolling, but you're flame-baiting.  And when you're called out on it, you respond with statements like the ones above.

Kindly find a better way to convey your opinions, without belittling those of others.

@Vampire Killer:  Please do not ask for people to get sexual favors as a way of attacking them.  Have some respect for your own post and for the posts of others, even if I generally agree with your sentiment regarding Puwexil.

[Puwexil]

I have neither belittled nor insulted absolutely nobody. What I've done in this topic is talk about the worst aspects of a game I find to be the lowest example of its ilk, which is the point of this thread. Then I talked about a piece of music in relation to said game, and oops, here come the personal attacks. Not that I care about the crass remarks of others, at least until it's somehow turned against me, like here.

Also thank you kindly, but I'm not going to stamp a big fat IMO in front of everything I write when it's dead-obvious my opinions are my opinions.

[Nagumo]

The only one who is being a dick is Vampire Killer.

[SenileSnake]

IF I MAY SAY SOMETHING

i may seem kind of biased because puw and i are like big bros, but as far as i can tell his assessment is very sober and the only thing "wrong" with it is that it doesn't seem to reflect the general opinion of the thread. and yes, IMO shouldn't be necessary, nothing he says be taken as neither fact nor attacks, least of all "personal attacks". here comes a big shocker, lords of shadow is not a real person. neither is it anything worth being petty and defensive about. if anyone can make a post as laconic as  puwexil in favor of lords, i will gladly read it. or maybe i should also get a blowjob. thank you, dungeon. i mean i don't really like hanging out here but sometimes you just crack me up.

no, maybe lords isn't the biggest 3d fail... maybe you are the biggest 3d fails, vampire killer and jorge...

[crisis]

Come on now, we're all friends here. I enjoy reading puwe y senile's posts (sometimes naggermo's lol). Makes me feel all... sticky o__o

[Vampire Killer]

@Vampire Killer:  Please do not ask for people to get sexual favors as a way of attacking them.  Have some respect for your own post and for the posts of others, even if I generally agree with your sentiment regarding Puwexil.

True, twas a bit crass. Sorry.

The below is meant to be taken humorously....

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In my defense though, what red blooded man doesn't enjoy, nay need, a good beej every now and then? I've often found that a beej puts me in a right chipper and more agreeable mood, while a lack thereof can make me cranky, but perhaps that's just me

[Vampire Killer]

The only one who is being a dick is Vampire Killer.

That's just ur opinion 

[Nagumo]

oh don't even

Seriously, though. You can't handle that some fans don't think the same way about Lords as you do.   

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I have neither belittled nor insulted absolutely nobody. What I've done in this topic is talk about the worst aspects of a game I find to be the lowest example of its ilk, which is the point of this thread. Then I talked about a piece of music in relation to said game, and oops, here come the personal attacks. Not that I care about the crass remarks of others, at least until it's somehow turned against me, like here.

Also thank you kindly, but I'm not going to stamp a big fat IMO in front of everything I write when it's dead-obvious my opinions are my opinions.

You do not have to, but you must realize that you're opinion does not carry any more weight than anyone else's.  You also do not have to write that every time as that.  Great example is how you just said "a game I find" rather than the other hyperbolic statements such as "This IS like this".  And no, it's not always understood/obvious that something is your opinion.  Sometimes things that are factual are written as such, and when not everyone can understand one another, mishaps such as what just happened on the page prior, will happen.

So, for the sake of forum peace, be clear about the things you say, and watch the tone in which you say them.  Without a facial expression to go with them, all we can do is read between the lines, and when not everything is written on the page, not everything will be understood as how it came out of your head, but rather as how it's perceived afterwards.

[Mortificator]

And yet it's a fact that not all video games are of equal quality. It's fine if a person likes, say, Legends better than Castlevania, but Castlevania is objectively the superior game in pretty much every area. In that vein, a well-reasoned analysis does carry more weight than Beavis & Butthead-style nonsense.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I can generally agree with that statement, but there are qualities of games (as there are in all art) which are so subjective, that they cannot be quantified.  There's also the matter of personal tastes, which extend into game graphics and music, such as the musical example from a page back (Deforestation, I believe it was).

As such, saying something as vacuous as "This is better than this", at times, is not a fact but rather a personal opinion, no matter how loud and bombastic your post about it may be.  There's nothing wrong, nor does it waste a lot of time, to say "I find this better than this" or "I think I'm more fond of this" rather than "This is absolute shit in comparison to this clearly superior thing".

It's really the presentation.
One makes you come off as a practical sensible member of the forum, and the other one will make you come off as an ass.
Also, one of those will get you banned eventually.

[DoctaMario]

Guysguysguys....Puweyxil's Scandinavian. It's that gruff Viking-like personality that endears him to and makes him a valued part of the CV community!    Honestly, he and I have disagreed about a lot of things, but no matter, his posts are all pretty well written and thought out. Cut him a bit of slack.

I do agree with him about that Forest Of Monsters remix though. They basically took out most of the good things about the piece. The melody was buried in the mix, the cool tension-building chord changes were substituted for more bland choices, and wtf was up with the female singer. No thank you sir, I'll take the SCVIV version please. I did like the tempo change at 2:27 though, how they brought in that little bit from the end credits.

The first version of the 64 game (Castlevania) was an incomplete mess, but the improved re-release (Legacy of Darkness) was pretty good.

I have always preferred CV64's level designs over LoD's. If they'd ported over the CV64 designs and had the characters and story modes from LoD, that would have been a hell of a game. I still think the 64 games are among the best CV games myself. THey truly are 2D Castlevania with a Z axis.

On topic, I picked Curse Of Darkness. It's a game I've owned for umpteen years but have only finished once despite picking it up and trying again at least 3 or 4 other times. I've just never been bored enough to want to finish it. They just didn't put enough time into the more important stuff in that and LoI. When you're in the basement of the House of Remains in LoI, you should be able to walk up to the coffins in some of the rooms, hit a button and it should tell you who the body inside was. How hard would something like that have been? Both games are good examples of commerce ruining potentially good art.