Topic: MS: "People is not dumb and won't stick just to the little number"

[Pfil]

MS knows by now that MoF is the worst selling game and worst reviewed game of the entire series (not counting Judgment).
But it seems they don't care and continue with their speech of "I don't care if fans wanted something else, I'm proud of my game".

I want to make clear that I don't hate this game, I liked some few things. I consider it better than LoS and some steps in the right direction. But that arrogance and lack of care about the fanbase is irritating.

[uzo]

Makes me wondering how DmC is doing in the sales department.

[Pfil]

From what I've gathered so far, it's receiveng pretty good reviews and fans seem to be happy with it.

[Ahasverus]

Arrogant fools.
I just want for this to end, really, sadly I'm more burned by their attitude than by their games, but I can't stand these cocky remarks anymore.

You are not Miyamoto, Cox, you know what Miyamoto has that wou never will? Humility.
And you are not Naughty Dog, MercurySteam, you were lucky that CV has a nice base gameplay that someone with a forhead 3 inches long (except IGA, it seems) will know how to make it work in 3D in the 21th century, but once you can stand on your own feet, and you get to know that YOU ARE NOT MAKING GAMES FOR YOURSELVES, you'll start going up.

And having an audicence that like you is the first step, the one that you are failing so hard.

Makes me wondering how DmC is doing in the sales department.

Terribad. 1.1M copies as of right now.

[Neobelmont]

How is that all of us are not pleased with how things are turning out even the ones that like LoS

I want to make clear that I don't hate this game, I liked some few things. I consider it better than LoS and some steps in the right direction. But that arrogance and lack of care about the fanbase is irritating.

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That makes one of us. I recall that you made a thread one time about MoF I think we both had good points but to me MoF lacks just  too much.



To present themselves in this ways is.... Wake up for petes sake Come on. I do not want something bad to happen to MS but kind of like Ahasverus said their attitude, their presentation of themselves... Two years ago I would given a benefit of a doubt but.... This is ... No if your head is that thick, your eyes so blind to the truth then there is nothing left to be said.

[Nagumo]

"I don't care about the music that was present before", said the director, "the music from before didn't fit at all with the game we wanted to make now".

Statement like these always make me think MS have little to no interest at all in the Castlevania series, but just want to mold it into something of their own liking.

I was thinking about it the other day, and how the Lords of Shadow series came about is similar to when you play a game from a franchise that you like, and you create your own idea for a new entry in that series. When you're thinking of what elements to put in the game I noticed from my own experience that you tend to put things in that appeal to you without considering if those elements would actually be appropriate for that specific series.

So, the Lords of Shadow games are like a fan idea run out of control. No wonder the developers get so upset when you criticize their game since you're basically telling them they have bad taste.           

[A-Yty]

"I don't care about the music that was present before", said the director.

What a rascal. Exiting the room with his middle finger raised.

[TheouAegis]

Mercury Steam needs 16-bit boobies too!

Rings of Power - Easter Egg

That was the first time I ever heard of Naughty Dog. One of my first experiences with GameFAQs too. 

[Dark Nemesis]

Great, it seems that no matter what, MS wont get the point of the fans.

"I don't care about the music that was present before", said the director.

This is blasphemy. I am not against music changes, but only when they are fit for the game and not out of place. Many games have their music change from when the have started, but the new music, is always fitting with the game that comes out, good examples are Mario, Sonic and Metroid.

[Shiroi Koumori]

Perfect MS, you guys just dug yourselves an even bigger hole in the ground.
And that arrogance, wow just wow.

Whenever I play a CV game at least a tune (most of the time almost the entire soundtrack) would get stuck in my head since they are that catchy. Now, what do I remember from MoF... stupid QTEs.

Great, it seems that no matter what, MS wont get the point of the fans.

Precisely.
MS get done with LoS2, then devote yourselves in making your own game.
IF Konami pulls the plug on 2d vanias,  I know who is to blame.

Oh and MS, it is always a numbers game in this world. It is easier to let people know what to expect when things get quantified. Yes, sometimes the numbers are biased, but, if most of the reviews say your game is not that good, I don't think there is a bias bandwagon going on, right? Why not shut up and learn from your mistakes instead of trying to defend them?
Listen to us, the consumers.

[uzo]

Terribad. 1.1M copies as of right now.

Haha, ouch. I wonder if they've started regretting changing Dante into some sloppy dope, and insulting the fans (including the GDC brokeback mountain image).

[FireSeraphim]

Finally, David Coxcable gets exactly what he deserves! I hope it serves this soulless asshole right. (Yes I read the entire thread)

[Dark Nemesis]

Off topic, for those who feel nostalgia.

[Dark Nemesis]

Also:

[DragonSlayr81]

You find a way to make it fit and they know they have the right minds to do it, so why not do this? It baffles me and  why not use more classic music that you were "inspired" from there is nothing wrong with it. This is irritating me more than it should.

It's the arrogant upstart mentality you see a lot nowadays. People who are "To HELL with everything before, we are claiming THIS for ourselves, changing it according to OUR views, and if you don't like it, SCREW YOU! You're age is DEAD, FORGET everything you knew about it, it's OUR time now!!".

I do agree, though, you can have the best of both worlds. From what I've seen a LOT with the industry, the practicing of stark contrasts seems to be the norm. It's probably more easiler and less risky. But yeah, wasn't SCV4 a PERFECT example of both ambient, mood-filling songs as well as ultra catchy melody drivin' songs? It CAN work. I just think people are so filled with BS, it comes shooting out of their mouth every time they open it.

It's pathetic when someone gets criticism and goes "lalala I can't hear you" and accuses it for missing the point instead of properly responding to its points.

Another facet to the "arrogant upstart mentality".

Statement like these always make me think MS have little to no interest at all in the Castlevania series, but just want to mold it into something of their own liking.

I was thinking about it the other day, and how the Lords of Shadow series came about is similar to when you play a game from a franchise that you like, and you create your own idea for a new entry in that series. When you're thinking of what elements to put in the game I noticed from my own experience that you tend to put things in that appeal to you without considering if those elements would actually be appropriate for that specific series.

So, the Lords of Shadow games are like a fan idea run out of control. No wonder the developers get so upset when you criticize their game since you're basically telling them they have bad taste.           

That's sadly a lot of what you see with many reboots in general. The bit about the dude not liking the music reminds me of Sam Bayer knocking the original Nightmare on Elm Street series, praising that his more realistic reboot was going to be a definitive part of the franchise, and actually aim for stuff like a serious mood and character development.

Haha, ouch. I wonder if they've started regretting changing Dante into some sloppy dope, and insulting the fans (including the GDC brokeback mountain image).

Didnt' Capcom recently announce that they are pulling back and are stopping the whole "outsourcingi to other stuios" thing(and some projects that were being worked on by other studios were being canceled)? LOL! Guess we won't be seeing a nother NT+Capcom DMC...

 

Great, it seems that no matter what, MS wont get the point of the fans.
This is blasphemy. I am not against music changes, but only when they are fit for the game and not out of place. Many games have their music change from when the have started, but the new music, is always fitting with the game that comes out, good examples are Mario, Sonic and Metroid.

Sonic I'm torn over. Though, that's more because I always seen the series evolving more towards an electronic/synth/house-fusion with jazz(thought with overall general diversity seen in the original games, banking on multi-cultural and multi-genre styles) than I did, well, rock. IMO, it's not even good rock. Though I did like, overall, the melodies of the songs in both Sonic 4 games, even though the synthing was terribad.