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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #135 on: February 07, 2010, 02:29:13 PM »
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obviously, the powers that be looked for a hero to who could stop Dracula, and none could be found (because Simon died of his wounds after Simon's Quest and had no descendants), so it decided to transport Simon in time 100 years later to face the count.

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #136 on: February 07, 2010, 03:50:06 PM »
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Oh... well I don't know about that.
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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2010, 07:35:21 PM »
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The thing that I think really throws people for a loop with CV4 is the intro.  I know that at least in the US version of the game, it states that "once again Simon Belmont sets out with only his whip and his courage." after saying that "Dracula and the Belmonts haven't fought each other for 100 years".  If the part about Simon Belmont once again setting out, or that the previous battle was 100 years earlier was removed, there would be no problem because then the game would either be a remake of the original CV or a sequel to Simon's Quest.
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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2010, 10:17:44 PM »
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Though SCV4 is a remake and I'm thankful that the mistress of the forbidden library; Nagumo could find the Japanese translation of the intro story, I still think that this game holds potential to be the sequel to Simon's quest. Al you would need to do is remove certain sections of the US intro to make it so.

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2010, 10:33:49 PM »
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Though SCV4 is a remake and I'm thankful that the mistress of the forbidden library; Nagumo could find the Japanese translation of the intro story, I still think that this game holds potential to be the sequel to Simon's quest. Al you would need to do is remove certain sections of the US intro to make it so.

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Long ago, before the people at Konami and Iga released their timeline, the good people at Nintendo Power created a timeline.  This made sense, because back then the majority of Castlevania games were on Nintendo.  This timeline of theirs was pretty accurate.  There was only a few differences.  They included Legends for instance.  The biggest difference was that they put CV 2 just a couple years after CV 1, and CV 4 took place about five years later.  I always like that.  It made more sense for me that Simon took care of his curse in two years instead of seven, and I always liked the idea of him fighting Dracula one more time.

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2010, 12:27:13 AM »
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I thought the JPN version of Super CV 4 had something different.
I always thought it was just a translation problem.  We've seen those before.

Again, this is what I used to believe, heh heh... now I know it's a reimagining type of game.

Anyone got the translation of the JPN CV4 intro text?
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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2010, 05:45:06 AM »
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This was the Text that Nagumo found:

The text was translated by "Help Me":

"During the middle ages in Europe, there was once a peaceful small country named Transylvania. A country associated with the legend of
Dracula.

'Once in every hundred years, there's a time when the power of good is weakened and men filled with evil in their hearts pray for the ressurection
of the prince of darkness. And with each ressurection, his evil power grows stronger.'

In the past, he has taken several forms in this world with each ressurection. However, when the entire world is covered by many dark clouds
and the demon king rules the dark evening, the Belmont family has always come forth to oppose him.

The Belmonts had always defeated Dracula in death duels, banishing him from the living world for another hundred years, in which prosperity
would once again be covered by shadows and Transylvania suffers a continous disaster...

One day, the village was shrouded by a dark thunderstorm and a straight stroke of lightning quickly silenced the town. In that very instance,
the dark powers has brought back the once powerful Price of Darkness and along with him, a powerful demon army. To help solve this crisis,
Simon, the young heir of the Belmont clan, has vowed to liberate the human world. Although, insecured of his overwhelming influence, Simon
nonetheless arms himself with the whip containing mysterious powers inherited from his ancestors and sets for to the demon castle."


Hope that help's you Jorge. It helped me.  :)

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #142 on: February 08, 2010, 07:23:13 AM »
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Look at that..
Simon is not even mentioned..

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #143 on: February 08, 2010, 02:01:05 PM »
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Ah, that text is from the manual though. Dunno about the intro but I shall try to dig it up somewhere.     

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2010, 03:51:52 PM »
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Isn't it CV4 where they mention Dracula is resurrected on Easter this time?

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2010, 06:23:49 PM »
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Nah, that was Chronicles ;)
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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #146 on: February 09, 2010, 04:54:06 AM »
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Here are some pics of the Japanese intro text:


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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #147 on: February 09, 2010, 07:53:51 AM »
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Here are some pics of the Japanese intro text:




It is the same as the Japanese Manual Story.
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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #148 on: February 09, 2010, 01:26:05 PM »
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It is the same as the Japanese Manual Story.



Woah, really? So that means that the statement that SCVIV takes places exactly 100 hundred years after the last confrontation between Dracula and the Belmont Clan is just American mumbo jumbo ? (The Japanese manual doesn't mention it) If that is true, that means that it could be quite possible that this game was indeed originally intented to be a sequel to Simon's Quest. The manual does mention the 100 year rule but does not claim to take place on the 100 year mark. With this plus the fact that the gravestone that Dracula rises from is the same from CV2, Jorge's theory actually makes a whole lot of sense.

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Re: Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
« Reply #149 on: February 09, 2010, 02:09:20 PM »
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Nah, that was Chronicles ;)

Ah yeah, thanks for reminding me.  I totally forgot about that game for some reason.

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