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Why do you hate LoS?

Uses too much stuff from GoW, SotC, etc.
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Plot (Gabriel becomes Dracula, etc.)
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Music (Different from what the series is known for)
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Bestiary (Monsters and bosses not like in IGA's timeline)
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Other. Explain or propose in topic.
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #240 on: February 12, 2012, 08:39:21 PM »
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Tell me it would'nt be the most HILARIOUS thing if after all this time of IGA failing to deliver, Cox and his crew finally give us their own take on the 1999 war?

Im pretty sure it might possibly go something like this:

Current Belmont is after Dracula while Dracula and Death are after Satan, in the end, Belmont defeats Dracula and then Satan comes in. Maybe Dracula will burst in all fucked up and shit and try to take Satan on and fail, after which the Belmont character will defeat Satan, either with some gimmick artifact given to him by Gabuela, or not- after which Dracula will be redeemed and finally find his peace and die, or something. At least thats what im expecting, given how they are setting up the idea that he has gotten fed up with eternal unliving life, and wants only to join Marie.
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #241 on: February 12, 2012, 08:45:33 PM »
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Tell me it would'nt be the most HILARIOUS thing if after all this time of IGA failing to deliver, Cox and his crew finally give us their own take on the 1999 war?

Im pretty sure it might possibly go something like this:

Current Belmont is after Dracula while Dracula and Death are after Satan, in the end, Belmont defeats Dracula and then Satan comes in. Maybe Dracula will burst in all fucked up and shit and try to take Satan on and fail, after which the Belmont character will defeat Satan, either with some gimmick artifact given to him by Gabuela, or not- after which Dracula will be redeemed and finally find his peace and die, or something. At least thats what im expecting, given how they are setting up the idea that he has gotten fed up with eternal unliving life, and wants only to join Marie.
This is pretty much the end I foresee for the LoS storyline. Sadly it will come in one or maybe two more generations.
But yeah, Cox will deliver his 1999 battle and IGAtardz will still be waiting for their never-to-be-released-because-they-just-don't-know-how-to-make-it masterpiece

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #242 on: February 12, 2012, 08:45:55 PM »
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As far as the series is concerned, it wouldn't be hilarious if the 1999 event became a missed opportunity. But it would be mildly amusing to see the people who usually curse all things IGA defend it no matter how crappy it would turn out - just because it was in LoS 2 or 3 or whatever and because it wasn't IGA's handywork.
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #243 on: February 12, 2012, 08:48:34 PM »
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i would not play a game!!! That's why, i never played MGS!!!
By that logic stories in video games are obsolete, because if people want to have a good story they wouldn't playing video games at all. However, MGS and some RPGs prove that games could have a good stories and detailed world. And actually its your loss that you didn't give a chance to MGS. It's one thing to watch the movie, another to participate in the story yourself, that's why I dislike people who make any statements about video games after they watched it on Youtube or somewhere else. Watching =/= participation.

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To Sumac: If only subweapons are the only thing you see on SOTN connected to the old series, then you are blind or you didn't play it at all!!! Like i said before, i never cared about scenarios, i only mentioned the scenario of LoS, because it is not something, we haven't seen in another game or movie...
Yes, only subweapons is a part of old Castlevania formula that was reused in SOTN. Everything else you can find in pretty any other action game. To clear things up, I am talking only about gameplay, not style.
And why in the world you so adamant about LOS having a bad story if you didn't care about that?
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Does anyone read what i'm writing? Stories come second or third for me. What i'm looking is game play and music first and then the rest.
I, for one read, what are you writing and because of this a have a single question: what are you doing: trolling or just trying to invent half-assed gripes?

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If you had played SOTN, then you should have known that the game's story, is based on Richter
Nope. It's based around Alucard. Richter is the secondary character and the main plot is about Alucard and his relationship with his father and Maria (well at least they try to make it look like one). And by the way, why are we still talking about story, if you don't care about it in the slightest?

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Except from the RPG elements and exploration style, did they had the same game play style?
Yes, they did.
Eveyrhting else were a "gimmick-of the-game" put on to of "metroidvania" formula.

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old music tunes rearranged
Now, please list all old tracks from previous Castlevania games, that were used in CV64. I now only about 6 and only 3 of them appeared in game (3 of them appeared only in LOD) in they original form (weren't put in other melodies or heavily remade). LOS actually did almost the same.
So, please give me that list or I call you argument a "bullshit".

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No, i haven't drunk to much coffe, but i can't say the same for you............i would write, like how i like and feel and if you don't like it, you can always stop reading what i'm writing or make your beefs to a moderator!!!

I am not sure how to deliver this news for you, but I am not the one who attacks everyone with tonnes of exclamation marks. It as strange as if you were writing in all CAPS. Just saying.

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They might do in a way the movie thing too, but they are still creatures that they are connected with the legend of Dracula and mythological  and not fantasy.
I'll be the third to put this statement under a heavy question. What in the world mummies, Medusa and Frankenstein Monster have to do with Dracula legend?

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The fact that he doesn't have dialogues, doesn't mean he has no story. Then most of the classic castlevanias, they are not main games, since they don't have dialogues, only start from point A and finish to point B. He plays like the old games, where they didn't have dialogues.

LOL or Facepalm?
Anyway, I'll put it in my quotes list under "completely missing the point" label.

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gremlins and trolls, aren't classic enemies, i don't recall them in any previous game
Why those goblins is such a deal breaker? Are they present in the game in every corner or play major role in the events?
There were shittones of generic enemies in CV series as the whole. Skeletons, zombies, bats, you name it. But no, those goblins ruin everything... :-\
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #244 on: February 12, 2012, 08:56:46 PM »
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #245 on: February 12, 2012, 09:00:26 PM »
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The "official" timeline is all over the place and really, makes maybe, somewhat sense but even then who cares it's a damn video game franchise. The x-men have the whole multiverse thing going on for it and it keeps things fresh with room for alternate adventures and timelines so why not this one? More room to grow i'd say.

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #246 on: February 12, 2012, 09:04:03 PM »
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iga super epic 1999 game is so going to come out and make you realize how wrong you haters all are

going to have julius belmont whip swinging off rockets and battle super computer demons like doom cyberdemon while flipping a hundred times per second as he latch onto skeleton head then toss it to hit dracula in face and dracula's head fall off and julius ride it into hell to defeat source of evil, the big bad, the satan then this is three way battle as habkubas and armerican arm y FUCK YEAH go fight rthe demon forces. go pick between julis, alucard, MAN hakuba, and jessie the body ventura belnades

then castle crumble as julius escapes, lots of qtes here guys, gotta be epic, then julis stands on cliff... and sheds tear.

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #247 on: February 12, 2012, 09:17:13 PM »
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But yeah, Cox will deliver his 1999 battle and IGAtardz will still be waiting for their never-to-be-released-because-they-just-don't-know-how-to-make-it masterpiece

Just when you're starting to sound rational to us nowadays, you revert to your previous persona of an annoying LoS fanboy that speaks immature rhetoric to get a "point" across, like in your early days here. Stop being a bandwagon cheerleader already.

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #248 on: February 12, 2012, 09:19:06 PM »
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Pretty sure Ahasverus is 13, Crisis, so you're basically being a bully.

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #249 on: February 12, 2012, 09:30:08 PM »
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The "official" timeline is all over the place and really, makes maybe, somewhat sense but even then who cares it's a damn video game franchise. The x-men have the whole multiverse thing going on for it and it keeps things fresh with room for alternate adventures and timelines so why not this one? More room to grow i'd say.

That's the whole point. No reason for LoS to try taking what is supposed to be the last battle in the classic timeline. Let it create its own damn big thing if there is supposed to be one.


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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #250 on: February 12, 2012, 09:32:27 PM »
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Pretty sure Ahasverus is 13, Crisis, so you're basically being a bully.
I'll always be 13, gotta love that number 
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That's the whole point. No reason for LoS to try taking what is supposed to be the last battle in the classic timeline. Let it create its own damn big thing if there is supposed to be one.
I don't see where the problem is, I'm actually glad they plan to finish this story and not having it inflated to eternity.
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 09:35:34 PM by Ahasverus »

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #251 on: February 12, 2012, 09:42:02 PM »
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What makes you think they're going to "finish the story"? LoS can't really finish a story it didn't start and is not part of. Again, this is - until proven otherwise - a different timeline and as far as I know, there isn't anything official to support future LoS is going to even fart in the general direction of any kind of 1999 event. All that has been hinted is a rematch with Black Cloud Pants Devil. If that happens in that particular year, then hey, that's cool. But it'll just be "Air Jousting in Hell 1999", not "Demon Castle War".


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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #252 on: February 12, 2012, 09:45:13 PM »
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What makes you think they're going to "finish the story"? LoS can't really finish a story it didn't start and is not part of. Again, this is - until proven otherwise - a different timeline and as far as I know, there isn't anything official to support future LoS is going to even fart in the general direction of any kind of 1999 event. All that has been hinted is a rematch with Black Cloud Pants Devil. If that happens in that particular year, then hey, that's cool. But it'll just be "Air Jousting in Hell 1999", not "Demon Castle War".
yeah I get that and I'm fine with whatever they are calling it as long as it's good. And yeah I realise it's not IGA's original vision, not that I care though.

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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #253 on: February 12, 2012, 09:48:58 PM »
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I'll always be 13, gotta love that number
a lot of 13 year olds are very naive, so i guess it makes sense.


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The "official" timeline is all over the place and really, makes maybe, somewhat sense but even then who cares it's a damn video game franchise. The x-men have the whole multiverse thing going on for it and it keeps things fresh with room for alternate adventures and timelines so why not this one? More room to grow i'd say.
thanks to COX making a distinction between "Akumajo Dracula" and "Castlevania," that just may be the case. What bugs me is that he fumbles his words, by saying stuff like "LoS is a reboot, but it's separate to Akumajo Dracula." Essentialy, it's a "supposed-to-be" Castlevania that borrows certain elements from Castlevania, but doesn't want to BE Castlevania. Yup.
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Re: LoS: Why do some fans hate it?
« Reply #254 on: February 12, 2012, 09:51:46 PM »
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I feel like I just played Mind Speed Chess with a bot. And the board was made of macaroni. And the clocks that were used weren't running. And then I wasn't actually even playing and I was turned into a turkey.

In other words, I'm not really following that "this" is anymore. Is it the Demon Castle War? Or just LoS 2 set in 1999..?


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